The word overseer does not convey the idea of a participant in the work, but I have seen elders assume that role. Of course often they are in the same mess than the cases they judge.
Posts by waton
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Altered Scriptures?
by punkofnice inmy spies tell me that the jobos recently had a broadcast where 2 scriptures have been changed.. luke 22.26you, though, are not to be that way.
but let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering.. 1 tim 3:1this statement is trustworthy: if a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work.
i don't have the tech to locate the broadcast right now.
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Are We In A Computer Simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inelon musk believes we are and he's a pretty smart guy that runs spacex, a lot black hole physics may seem to present the 3 dimentional space as a hologram of a 2 dimentional sphere.. i think this is open for serious debate.
what are the pros and cons?.
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waton
Plato proposed a situation, where long term prisoners chained to a cave's wall could only see shadows, and surmised this was the reality of the world out there. Upon release they realized the true grand reality.
With Mathematicians, way out cosmologists dabbling in higher and lower dimensions, Scientific American's fall edition "Cosmos" has an article on it.
If correct, the beyond, the past would not be simpler but more complex. interesting novel thought.
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When God takes a day off!
by eyeuse2badub init’s really a bitch when god takes a day off.
he’s supposed to be watching over all things-except when he doesn’t and he can control any situation-except when he doesn’t.. so he gets all the credit for the good things that are and that happen due to his “dynamic energy”.
it must be tiring because he obviously takes days off.
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waton
SG, the shooter was not a selecting sharp shooter like "god" was supposed to be in the flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, and all the firstborn Egyptians, he just sprayed the human mass below him with lead. They could not dodge the bullets, but on "his" rest day "he"could have saved lives, as "jesus" suggested. WT just hopes he will wake up from his 7000 year snooze to let out Satan, to finally see how to get it over with.
obviously the maker lets us work out our own problems, the ones of our own making. sorry for the victims and families.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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waton
Fisherman, very good analogy. They will have to erase the anointed generation, it does not fit Jesus words. That partaker generation ends before paradise for sheep and gehenna for goats, which is all part of Jesus' end generation prophecy.
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When God takes a day off!
by eyeuse2badub init’s really a bitch when god takes a day off.
he’s supposed to be watching over all things-except when he doesn’t and he can control any situation-except when he doesn’t.. so he gets all the credit for the good things that are and that happen due to his “dynamic energy”.
it must be tiring because he obviously takes days off.
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waton
"God" is still in his great week off, so his domain. the universe acts up: hurricanes twins and quake twins, and the competing "god of this world" too does not control his flock, with stabbings, rollovers and now machined guns.
awful days off.
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J.W.'s reliance on Matthew 24:14
by The Fall Guy invirtually every j.w.
will gladly tell you that matthew 24:14 proves that only they are god's true people/religion, because they are the only people preaching the good news worldwide today.
crucially, they double-down on this lame bet by adding that their worldwide preaching proves another wtbts teaching, namely, that we are living in "the last days.
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waton
Wt links the preaching of Math. 24:14, and the disciple making in all nations, as in Math 28, witnessing to distant parts of the Earth ( Acts 1:8) and "Hastening the day" to keep jws active in the field, now expected to be a joy until 2075.
Jws are now preach the kingdom established in 1914. Jesus did not know anything about that. How do expect him to have mentioned it?
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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waton
Buying time because their false prophecies in the past had failed miserably.
JSaturn, let me elaborate on pon's observation. How much time you could understand they bought? until 2075.
Using D, Splane's comments about F. Franz, who was 21 in 1914, but was anointed earlier, and died 1992, 78 years after 1914, the generations start; A similar living anointed that D.S. alluded to, would be 46 today, and after 87 years outliving Franz, die at age 98 in ~ 2070.
David Splane acknowledged older partakers around, so a "happy anniversary wt, 2075" is the time they bought themselves at least on paper,
BSW: This anointed overlapping generation not only distorts "Jesus' " words it also contradict "him". because
Jesus said the generation will not pass away. but the anointed generation has to pass away, before all these things, like Armageddon, the judgement of the goats, the sheep entering into everlasting life... occur.
As it stands, wt stands in error by its current teaching. buying time will not help to erase that.
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"The shootings in Las Vegas show how much we need God's Kingdom"
by Sour Grapes inmy jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.
she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.
" i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.
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waton
The king has been ruling for 103 years this month, and still can not get his angels to act to stop such mayhem? just flip, jam the safety, invisibly? sad for the victims.
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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waton
some poster said that fans pay for the salary of these players. Not so, every product sold carries a penalty to finance the advertisement for unwanted "services", like those offered by these alpha males. Much good and advancement could be bought by not wasting it on kneeling pursuits of any kind.
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waton
They could have converted the RBC into the LDC, but choose to remove another power level in the process. The RBC was top heavy.