The story of "jesus" seems to fit this meandering saga, because there, he is recorded as never having uttered the 'name' in his personal talks with the deity, although according to the nwt, he even quoted " Jehovah" in his rebuttal of "satan's" temptations., calling "Jehovah" satan's god!
Posts by waton
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14Asking a Jew about the Name "Jehovah"
by David_Jay injehovah's witnesses...that's the trademark of the religion, the use of the name "jehovah.
" if there is anything jws and non-jws can agree on is that this one thing sets them apart from everybody else.. i have only had witnesses come to my door less than five times since i left in the 1990s.
i guess they don't work the territory i live in often, or perhaps after that first time (which was still after the year 2000) they have marked the words "jew who knows a lot" or something in their notes on my address.
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why does no one ask questions ?
by midnight ini always felt bad for asking questions , did anyone else ?
what question did you ask or want to ask but feel it was wrong ?
mine was regarding the circuit assembly and the amount defecit anounced .. also 1975 i got a stern reply too when i was studying in the 90,s.
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waton
public questions? particularly by jw ladies? not even in apostolic times. 1 Cor.14:35 : "... let them question their husbands at home..." but
Paul had a point: 35: " If they want to learn something... ask questions.
Do trained animals ever ask questions? but they perform, bring in the crowds, the money.
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Simple question for everyone
by kairos inq. how do you explain the millions that have left or were dfd/dad from jws?.
a. no evidence exists that it is the truth.. case closed....
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waton
That scripture never seemed to fit with the relatively few that make up the JW population.M210.
very good question for everyone, there is no great crowd numbered more accurately than the wt crowd***, down to the 15 minutes of the old and infirm.
*** the great crowd does not exist yet, for the great tribulation has not started yet, how can you come out of something hat does not exist? WT April 1995; Questions from readers. "Rev 7:9 "--describes the GC after the GT..."
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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waton
just sat through the weekly video on pride. and it is about a fictional brother that is alienating himself from the congregation by his critical attitude ( Beam in his eye, compared to the splinter in his targets) [targets supposedly the elders].
well, typical wt strohman argument. how about the arrogance of the elders, compounded by their " we are united and never do wrong" attitude?
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How HIGH did you climb the ranks as a JW? Did you like the STATUS?
by unshackled inso what were your biggest jw accomplishments as a rank & file?
curious as to what level you climbed the r&f ladder while in the org, or if you still are in.. did you regular pioneer, or auxiliary pioneer?
bethel?
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waton
I stood once behind N. Knorr, M.Henschel towering beside me, he was reading his favorite magazine, " Time" , and no snotty comments , or cutting short his jacket ( David style) occured to me. just another day.
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String Theories, God Particles, and Mayonnaise
by TerryWalstrom instring theories, god particles, and mayonnaise_______every morning they meet.
same table.
same conversations.. 3 old coots recycle stale ideas, rehash moth-eaten memories, and wear down my patience.. i could have moved to another table.
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waton
I thought that outboard joke was funny!
not even rude!
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100-million man hours
by Coded Logic inthe james webb telescope is set to launch in october of 2018 and will allow us to study the formation of first generation stars, the molecular clouds that became the first galaxies, and directly image exoplanets.
roughly one hundred times more powerful than the hubble space telescope the jwst is going to push back the current boundaries of science.. this is what 100-million man hours can accomplish.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8p0samsz7m.
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waton
and also coming is the earth based 30 meter mirror telescope, ( 20 times the size of Webb ), and,--now working in the longer range, the Chinese bowl and the Alma radio telescopes.
All instruments to fill the gaps in our knowledge, and formulate better questions.
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How Many Here Used To Sneak Looking At "apostate" Material?
by minimus ini did!
even when i was in junior high school i would go to the library and look for anything that was about charles taze russell or millenial dawn or jehovah's witnesses..... maybe i was an "apostate " in the making..
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waton
Bungi Bill, frankly, at the time I was full in, and the only thing I remember now was some financial details I found unbelievable. The book was a gift to me, I had shown no interest in the subject, only gave it passing attention, and I did not find the doctrinal arguments that would start to sway me later, the 'Superior Authority' reversal. Sorry but I now have only a blank.
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How Many Here Used To Sneak Looking At "apostate" Material?
by minimus ini did!
even when i was in junior high school i would go to the library and look for anything that was about charles taze russell or millenial dawn or jehovah's witnesses..... maybe i was an "apostate " in the making..
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waton
early one was given Schnell's 30 year wt slave, and ordered Penton's work ( including "plugilist club, members only" kh sign) ha ha, but all that did not have the impact to get me mentally out, that only later developments provided
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Crossing the Elders
by Cold Steel infew things draw my interest as much as people on this board who talk about the elders, the insidious little toadies who lurk around kingdom halls, the proverbial big fish in little ponds.
it amazes me the terror and the veneration they inspire, as well as the occasional ridicule.
it makes me wonder how they're selected and whether most of them come into the position with a sense of power, entitlement, authority and control, or whether many of them are pretty nice people and that i'm just hearing about the bad apples?
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waton
If I'm not mistaken, if you're anointed, you're born that way. CS:
Some religions might teach that, Catholics have to be baptized (like Jesus) to receive the anointing, Cornelius even was spirit anointed before baptism, but one way or another, you have to be faithful to a "t" , failure will make you lose it all. at least if you cross the elders, (brazen conduct in wt parlance!) or?