Posts by waton

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

waton

scriptural proof do you have for this opinion.

comment: Wt teaches, when you examine it, that the partaking of the bread and wine confers the right to everlasting life, a restoration of the adamic condition;- a bringing of the Christian up to a symbolic level of Christ. He, as the second Adam, sacrificed his right to life on Earth, and the anointed are expected to follow.

By that logic, that wt writers expressed in at least iwo publications though, all jws should partake, and then let The Judge, or the "sealing angels" determine who would be entitled to follow, that sacrificial path. to "the axe" if necessary

"Eat and drink all of you."

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

Finding evidence for something that you want to be true is called confirmation bias. 1EJ:

finding evidence is evidence of you being a well prepared researcher, or a insightful theorist. Looking and finding evidence is part of the scientific method.

Confirmation bias would push you to ignore contrary evidence, resist falsification attempts. and

luck happens most often to the prepared.

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

It would not expect us to search half of our lives or go through intellectual gymnastics to arrive at Its existence. R_T:

but that is exactly how Einstein thought about it, in his fruitful thought experiments, trying in a kind of mental game to pry the secrets of creation, the conversion of energy into matter, the time conundrum from the "lord" ,-- by way of dealing with the creation left behind by the creator. Albert must have felt it was set up like that: Here it is ;--use it,-- admire it, --work to find out my characteristics as expressed in my works.

That is the elephant in the room, the cosmos.

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Santa Claus or the Talking Snake, which did you take?

by waton in

who are more gullible, believers in santa or the ones in "the serpent"?

an old man that delivers gifts?

quite possible, grandpa does it all the time!

waton

smiddy, it was only after reading selected bible texts (make sure of all things) that

I actually became aware of the crucial importance of that sneaky snake episode to the whole sin / redemption racket.

I was not fooled as a kid by rumbling sounds in the hallway, but was an adult swallowing it, hook line and sinker. I was past the the little Red Riding Hood and the Talking Wolf age.

Stupid? no, gullible, in awe by the cosmic context of it all.

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Santa Claus or the Talking Snake, which did you take?

by waton in

who are more gullible, believers in santa or the ones in "the serpent"?

an old man that delivers gifts?

quite possible, grandpa does it all the time!

waton

--take more seriously? Who are more gullible, believers in Santa or the ones in "the serpent"?

An old man that delivers gifts? quite possible, Grandpa does it all the time! : believable.

A talking snake? now, or back in time? Billions have believed in it, and in the ramifications* spun from the idea. what gives? * *from Abel to Armageddon, from Eve to everlasting life.

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"There is evidence of a Creator if you just look for it"

by unsure in

(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).

“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.

many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.

waton

"--your view --does not cut it--Many would say evolution is an accepted fact among the scientific community and even among many believers who see the overwhelming evidence for evolution--" unsure:

Evolution is the easy part, I firmly believe in that mechanism. the harder one is abiogenesis, the start of life, the appearance of matter, a form of energy, the laws that govern nature, the enigma of eternal time. your comment shows you have too narrow a view of creation, which is at least 4 times older than evolution's start.

P.S. Belief in creation, a creator, does not necessarily equate with belief in a personal (for you), intervening "god"

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Words for the Day; please share

by compound complex in

jw
friends

greetings, word lovers:.

in my job, i work with words and wrangle them into shape, well, in a manner of speaking.

one word might be mistaken for another, a word with either a similar or identical sound.

waton

Question on another site: what language did God speak in genesis ( the book). many answers: old hebrew---

my contribution: it was a monologue , he mumbled either in Makeish or Createse. " let there be light " and

talking about the germanic connection: the german verb for dying is "sterben" the related english word is "starving" It is a fact that the cause of death is mostly starvation. of one kind of another. not a kind thing to happen to you.

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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

waton

I have been in close contact with Knorr, Frantz, Herd, Splane, that does just makes me only an observer of outward appearance indicating character.

I would say they are sincere to the point that they would do anything to have their state of mind come true in reality.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

waton

The resurrection of the Lord is the most awesome thing to happen! m-e:

I can no longer share your satisfying belief and need for the details of the narrative, narrowly focussed on the talking snake event, without which the whole plot is not plausible.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

waton

"--michelle, ma belle--",

thank you, I am not a deep scholar, and the wt illustration with Peter scrambling out of the hole with the full moon rising in the east, reminded me of the palm fringed sight at memorial, but it struck me as odd, that the most important Christian holiday would not be enshrined in scripture from the very start. Glad that some of our chains are broken too , like Peter's.

P.S. one would think with the big night so close, past or not, would at least merit a passing connecting reference? now "-- if I ruled the world--", inspired the bible---