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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

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  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  They used to rotate the GB committees too. They discovered that some brothers were not equally capable, that not keeping those brothers in key positions created havoc.

  However, rotation did not work effectively and it was done away with in the 1983 Organized to Accomplish You Ministry, page 41. Blondie,

  Yes of course, in the natural process of competition, comfort, and delight in work, a good working arrangement would have been developed among the servants in the congregations prior to the change*** when possible, . but in an equal number of cases, latent talent was suppressed, discovered through rotation, and then later recognized by acclamation. and

  where does the idea come from that corporate efficience would be a model for a "New World Society"?.

  *** was it not only the fixed Congregation servant that was immune to removal before 1971?
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  That was also a reason for the huge exodus after the failure of 1975. A lot of JWs would have probably let the failed prophecy thing slide by, but the fact that "servants" were now overseers, mass purges were taking place throughout the organization, and every congregation saw more JWs leave or fade away. JV2

  very insightful thoughts . look it up, the big exodus was not in autumn 1075, but when the change to slave drivers was instituted. A more profound stratifying of adherents than the clergy / laity model of BTG.

  The word " serve" now is a corruption of the meaning, it should read "dominates", "governs" instead. the word "overseer" and "coordinator" does not even imply any service, work at all, only governance, with all it's prestige, entitlements , imho.
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  There never was a scriptural basis for it. SV:

  if I remeber right, the changing of the chairmanship between Peter and James in the first century GB*** discussion on the circumcision / blood question, that happened during prolonged interruptions prompted that.

  That was the then very convincing scriptural argument at the time, and allowed the manipulators to rotate a willing victim into the top job for the 1975 fiasco ; ha ha.

  In the context of today's watchtower it would have given a good lesson of getting all brothers exposure, experience to the different tasks, and relief from the stagnation that preceded that rotation too, when congregation servants were on the top for life.

  *** The only reference for "organisational" procedure inside a "body" I know of in the NT. bsw.
  
  
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  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

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  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

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  waton

  because wt reverses everything.

  At the last supper, all the people with an earthly hope were served and commanded to eat & drink, "all of you !!!" but

  the only anointed present, Jesus, ate not, drank not at that point. . and thats the point, remember it!
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  too busy with the 99 other sheep who remain in the fold to worry about "difficult" lost sheep d1799:

  no, too busy with the weekly weakening wt routine with a sense of fulfilled scheduled duty, perhaps even envying you, in your peaceful, stress free condition.

  How could they face you to encourage you, when they secretly long for the day they can get off the wt treadmill too?
  
  
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  Interesting take on John 3:16

  by NikL in

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  the superstar of all scriptures.

  for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. .

  but i just learned something about it.. i try to look at different translations of the bible and the lexham english bible words it a bit different.... 16 for in this way god loved the world, so that he gave his one and only son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.

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  "--not be destroyed--", like not walking into the twirling swords god set up, angel powered.
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  floods in eastern Australia.

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  after cyclone debbie pounded her way across the queensland coast she then dropped massive amounts of rain onto the land.

  one area just west of mackay was hit with a metre of rain in 48 hours.. lots of damage towns going under lives lost.. go the abc.net.au/news..

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  waton

  Mackay was hit with a METRE OF RAIN IN 48 HOURS.

  that is ~ 2cm, 3/4 inch per hour, locally. now picture ~ 460 times that every hour for a month and a half everywhere. that would be the Noachian flood scene. bless you, Australia. how was the surf?
  
  
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  INNOCENT!! - JW walks free after 20 YEARS in jail

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after spending 20 years in jail for attempted murder in a compton shooting - this week marco contreras was declared factually innocent and released.. for now, he said, he was looking forward to two things: good mexican food and april 11. he’s a jehovah’s witness, and that’s the day his denomination will remember the anniversary of jesus’ death.. .

  question: how many witnesses to the crime where there?.

  contreras’ attorneys say an eyewitness inaccurately identified him as the gunman, although he’d been at home sleeping at the time.

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  It was new evidence that helped free him. Marco's brother Miguel was an accessory to the gas station robbery

  It shows how perilous your situation can be, if one or more of your brothers are involved in criminal activity, when your brother is a "-hood" or are in a questionable brotherhood.
  
  
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  tidbits from recent C.O. visit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!

  " in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.

  "it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.

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  " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!"

  is it not supposed to instantly change directions. left and right and backward, with those wheels within wheels at right or wrong angles? and having four driver's faces looking whereever each way? with all the changes, it is really more like jerking."