there is so much silence about the jw's in the ukraine conflict.
are the jw men arrested because they don't want to fight?
how is that going in the hyper nationalist fase the country is in?
Yeah, go squat in someone else's home and let them work and sacrifice while you wait in vain for Jehovah to magically fix things.
BH well, if the world would be filled with morons of your definition we would not have wars right?
and the refugees streaming out of the Ukraine are fleeing from real massive imperilment. They are not like the illegals coming across the boarders, the seas, to shop for the best handout countries.
there is so much silence about the jw's in the ukraine conflict.
are the jw men arrested because they don't want to fight?
how is that going in the hyper nationalist fase the country is in?
I think this is incredibly cynical: having goaded Ukraine into war with Russia,
sbf, I think if Russia invaded your country, it would be goaded into war too. really? remember September, 1939 Russia invaded Poland, at the start of WW2. That conquered land has still not been returned. (England should have declared war on all the invaders at the time, and we would not be in that threat to the planet today)
During WWII here in England the women did not run overseas, they stayed and helped the country.
SGoE: yeah, but the good ladies of England were not threatened with the kinds of atrocities that happened in eastern Europe and are still happening. (compare the 1940 fall France, Paris and 1945 Berlin.Dresden)
Hitler too had given orders to summarily execute any woman POW soldiers of the Soviet forces. so I highly recommend any females to flee from eastern combat zones. that is why my twin Gorbachev, who lived through it, wanted peace at any price.
there is so much silence about the jw's in the ukraine conflict.
are the jw men arrested because they don't want to fight?
how is that going in the hyper nationalist fase the country is in?
hopefully the Ukrainian government lives up to it's freedom loving claims and allows the Jws to exercise their choice of non involvement. In the areas now occupied by the invaders, russian law is probably applied, and the JW organisation is banned.
80 years ago that embattled region saw bible students, executed even for refusing to dig defensive anti tank trenches.
Now we see pictures of whole families seeking refuge, so males must be allowed to leave. Therefore it is time to apply the counsel:
"if they persecute you in one place, flee to another" , like to the UK, which was exemplary in the second WW to respect conscientious objector's stand.
12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?
to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.
as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.
self praise. stinks. given what wt was then preaching, worldwide, proven false prophecies. a stain on the reputation of a possible creator wt claims to represent.
Wt still preaches the same message:
"Millions now living will never die."
this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .
prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .
given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.
Does the Bible really specify that God existed in abject nothingness until he decided to begin creating?
TonusOH It does not, as far as I know, but given that scripture is 150% wrong about the creation event, I was looking beyond that, could have classed the thread under "humour".
We can extrapolate from our conditions here, that energy is uncreated , indestructible, eternal, and so is time. Therefore these two "entities must have coexisted with the creat-or/ trice. call it in "timespace" or "energytime."
biblically speaking, since Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, the Original creator and the Son must have made the universe between them , literally, locally, in the zero gravity area between 2 entities.
Given the immensity of the work we live in, all these bible based analogies seem to be totally inadequate to give it due esteem. imho.
this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .
prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .
given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.
There is no "inside" for an alternative dimension.
neat blue dog
wrong, dimensions are all for inside. we, with our universe are inside spacetime. The possible mother father is not. but there was eternal energy and timespace.
Our universe started at a point in timespace. it is an inside job. at least at that point, the outside realm was infinitely larger, older. still is out there, and we are expanding into it.
long live motherhood." thanks heaven for little girls "
nasa plans return to moon by 2020
"this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.
i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.
In the meantime, E. Musk is running tests and probably trying to figure out what payload could be gathered to fill the 250 cubic meters cavernous cavity of his starship. (you could actually get space sick in the assembly building)
of course everyone has his favoured load to get off their backs and sent to H. . so
nasa's measly 9 cubic meters interior volume will not do.
PS, make it a giant garden, with palms, bamboos, Hibiscus, Figs, Vines for wines, to break the dreadful scenes in the monster machines that astronauts have to live in. park one near the space stations for Rest and Recreation.
this week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text .
prayer to the father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" comment from a sister i missed, would have given if permitted: .
given that jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing.
This week's bible stories, temple dedication, key text . prayer to the Father; "-- [even] the heavens of the heavens cannot contain you.--" COMMENT FROM A SISTER I MISSED, WOULD HAVE GIVEN IF PERMITTED:
Given that Jehovah was alone, with absolutely nothing else around him, when he made the heavens,(including his firstborn), fashioned the universe, it could have only be inside him, with no outside existing. . He could contain the universe, but not the other way around. so
that is a perfect description of the quintessential mother, creating a new entity, life inside her. so, the Lord's prayer is wrong too, " Our mother, who is not in Heaven, but outside above it all . The "our mother" perfect prayer for catholics.
the real gorby has died today.
he was my inspiration for change, with perestroika and glasnost.. that is why i chose the name gorby at jwn.. see the man at the background.
he was there also.. g..
If you tried to find a bible parallel to him, you would have to pick Joseph. A man of integrity, who told it like it is, got his people out of a pickle, not really appreciated by his own, ,
they, like wt thinkers prefer the Davids of this world, conquerors, womanizers. war criminals.
a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.
wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.
that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.
Gen 1:1, that SB is supporting here is of course wrong, as is much of the bible.
The solar system, and planets endowed with a reach load of all kinds of elements, was not created in the Big Beginning, but 10 billion years later, through the outworkings of the laws of this particular universe.
The JW telescope has so far not yielded any clear images of 14 billion year old planets and stars. only smudges at 12. , but a clear infrared picture of Jupiter though, a tremendous 40 minutes old ?away.
