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  NASA: Humans Back to the Moon

  by Gerard in

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  nasa plans return to moon by 2020

  "this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.

  i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.

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  Gerard

  "the footage of the Llunar Module take off without even disturbing the Moon dust is something I am not comfortable with.

  The footage shows a short burst of propellant gas that blasts away pieces of the lander, left behind. an easy takeoff in the low lunar gravity field. The stream of gas was shielded/deflected by the equipment, never reached the regolith

  IN THE LOCAL CONGREGATIONS AROUND MERRITT ISLAND FL WERE MANY "ROCKET SCIENTISTS" INVOLVED IN THE MOON PROGRAM, FAKE HEAVEnLY NEWS WAS NOT THEIR OCCUPATION. sorry for the cap lock, still using the columbus method of typing.
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  NASA: Humans Back to the Moon

  by Gerard in

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  nasa plans return to moon by 2020

  "this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.

  i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.

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  worms that don't rely on photosynthesis would be amazing. BH.

  yeah, we have life here too, on this goldilocks planet, exploiting other energy gradients.

  The thread deals with visiting heavenly bodies that we know harbour no life, as we know it, so far.

  Webb is looking at Trappist one's 7 planets too,

  love being trapped by heavenly bodies ha ha
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  NASA: Humans Back to the Moon

  by Gerard in

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  nasa plans return to moon by 2020

  "this vision aims to return humans to the moon, and then to use it as a staging point for a manned mission to mars.

  i wonder if jws will be required to canvas those areas too.

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  waton

  Amazingly, in the same year, may be same month, same latitude in the USofA, we will also have the launch of an even bigger craft, that is destined to finally land on the Moon and Mars. Musk"s many uses masterpiece. cheap too, reusable and paid for, not the taxpayer, but willing private consumers investors.

  Europa? there the sun is 5 times smaller from here, sun light 1/25. ( 4% ) the strength of what it is here. Once there you really wish you were back in Cocoa Beach, Merritt Island FL where you started out from.

  The up in that other Europa, , around noon, at the equator, where it is warmest in both ways, a spot on Europa slows to minus 3 km/sec, loops in a prolate cycloid motion in front of the sun. see:

  http://www.sciforums.com/threads/jupiter-saturn-harvesting-machines.160744/ .

  All great works better than battering ourselves over borders, local territory, that is not ours anyway.
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  Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?

  by raymond frantz in

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  why has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?

  considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!

  book " man's search for god.what do you think?

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  organised attempt to prosylitise Muslims raymond franz

  well, the H2H ministry is organized enough to reach all Muslim households in many lands, and to raise their ire.

  with a sense humour not one of the leading qualities of behind those doors, it was enough to have my throat threatened to be cut on one of those memorable moments. mark those locations DNC.

  I Find Muslims to be good neighbours.
  
  
  
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  Watchtower vs Islam: Why the deafening silence?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  why has the watchtower failed spectacularly to evangelize to the muslims?

  considering the recent influx of muslim people in european countries you would think that some attempt from the religion that touts the are preaching the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth would have been made.instead the only meaningful attempt dates back to 1953 ,almost 70 years ago!!!!

  book " man's search for god.what do you think?

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  Anna marina, jn addition, many elders would fit with glee into the roles of the imans, singing: Listen obey and be blessed, islam meaning submission., being able to mete out the death penalty to dissenters. With that many heads rolling, the ranks of those ruling with Christ for a thousand years (Rev 20:3) would quickly swell. wt writers are just too chicken to put their neck on the line, willing to sacrifice the rank and file though, as Earnest maintained.
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  Do you pray?

  by Fisherman in

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  i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..

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  The wt/GB argument, that mediation between the workers and God comes only through them, reminds me of the assertion I heard made to an inventor, producer: that his product, like a harvest, has no value until it is exposed to the market place by merchants.

  wt and the like are merchants of a questionable product, because they clearly have no trademark, patent endorsement from the maker. have no nutritional value. ( keinen Nährwert).
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  Do you pray?

  by Fisherman in

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  i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..

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  Is God your Father or do you hope one day that He becomes your Father? Vdh7.

  If we have to accept that the universe, was created, even if it looks that it made itself (all things do), then

  with the creator, that fathered the cosmos, we are his latest offspring here on this planet.

  No wt mediation needed. Surely, As always, a thank you note is appreciated.
  
  
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  The problem of questioning or the lack of politeness

  by joao in

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  a forum is a place where people should be able to talk to each other, to question, to have meaningful interactions with others in a polite and educated way, to contribute for the growth of one another.

  it seems that, here, there are some people who think that the others know nothing.

  they have all the facts, all the truth and have the disrespectful attitude of ignoring concrete and respectful questions.

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  joao, Fischerman does not answer specific questions, because he is not able to, without being defeated in his wt defence. he never answers direct challenges. This impolite attitude*** is a tacit admission on his part that the position he takes is indefensible, untenable.

  We need people like him on this forum to be able to show to all, how rickety the wt's doctrinal house of cards really is.

  Stay around, drive the Fishermen of this world into silence. do not do a "cofty".

  *** at least the original Fisherman , Peter, had the guts to admit, in writing, that others, outside the "then GB" had better, more profound, more advanced ideas.
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  Do you pray?

  by Fisherman in

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  i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..

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  Our fellowship is with the Father and the Son. Christians don't need to address God as Jehovah

  Vdh 7. true. The record shows that Jesus never addressed the creator, father of it all with The "name", "Eli" perhaps as last words spoken.

  Expressing with family thankfulness for all we have in this creation, and sticking to the formula set by Jesus' example, can we do better than that?
  
  
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

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  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  The point is that the length of “this generation” is limited to the age of the second group of anointed. Fm.

  Fischerman, David Splane discussed the age issue, and volunteered, that older anointed than Frere Frederick Franz are, and will be out there. That would include clandestine partakers like yours truly, that rubbed shoulders with him in his last decade. so,

  doing the numbers again: 2 anointed, reaching the not uncommon age of 100 (we have one in our congregation) and overlapping by 20 years each ( or being age 20 in 1914), gives a length of the two overlapping groups of contemporaries as 160 years, thus reaching from 1914 to 2074 for the start of the GT, 2075 for all having occurred.

  Perhaps David and you wanted to emphasize how close, soon paradise is, but end up to sink the hopes of most that are alive now, and wt sticks to its 1918/19 slogan: " millions now , in 2022, living will never die, "will not pass away"

  Jesus was specific in saying that the generation will pass away, and when, ---- after the GT, not before, as wt at present prophecies.

  The anointed will have to pass away to go to heaven as did the Christ. wt Mission impossible.