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  ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...

  by BoogerMan in

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  straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

  30 secs.

  point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.

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  waton

  "unless if you become as little children, you will not inherit the kingdom of god". yes, lets hear a longer clip
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  Sir82

  by Iamallcool in

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  i was wondering is sir82 still alive?

  he has been po for many years.

  he said that he would not leave the org unless his wife is pomo.

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  waton

  some just lose their password, get locked out by computer problems, dont want to become sock-puppets too often. prove that this was not the wt generation.
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  ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

  30 secs.

  point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.

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  waton

  I like to hear the full text context before jumping to conclusions. of interest: DOES NOT ISLAM TEACH THAT ALL HUMANS ARE BORN MUSLIMS and only later, at their baby baptism for example change status, might become "infidels" ?
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  The infinite loop of resurrection

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. humour

  scene: the new world, any minute now.... billy bastard, an aborted fetus is resurrected and immediately dies because he is outside the womb of a birthing person.. repeat ad infinitum.

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  waton

  A discarded fetus though bears no guilt or sin except inherited imperfection.

  fisher man, how about miscarriages? very often the ending of life there is, if the fetus has serious flaws ( thalidomide prevented miscarriages). so, miscarriages prevented difficult lives, bad evolutionary developments.

  abortions prevent bad parenting that would follow bad morals or even misreading of the calendar in the rhythm method of contraception, that was enshrined (x-1) in the scriptures, if you read them right, to the opposite effect. ( the biblical rhythm method was to limit intercourse to the fertile time of the month)

  not approving abortions, just analyzing
  
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  D JW, you said:

  I think it is very possible that such exists, though such an idea is a strange one.

  we were talking about solar eclipses, well calculated millennia into the future and past. A civilisation 5 light years away could have seen the Madras OR eclipse of 2017 just at this moment, , but the great event does not exist anymore in some page of the so-called block universe. The universe has rolled on, all that is left is the radiation, like a tire mark on the road called time.

  There is not an alternative Earth floating out there 2 light years ahead in time that already embodies the 2024 eclipse locations. Only the time and spatial locations can be calculated.

  Based upon the idea, last night I did two experiments in which I tried to call to mind what I kn things happens. experiments

  The key word is mind, an amazing instrument that creates pictures for us where there are none. The real world looks quite different in xray, microscopic, more detailed view. without the awe, beauty concepts our back of the brain has build in. so,

  wait for a real awesome vision,
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  The WT has failed to explain fundamental doctrines

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.

  i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.

  i did not either understand from the wt what is love.

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  waton

  YOU JUST HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. the same goes for the overlapping groups in the 1914 generation. David Splane clearly explained it well, with charts even, and real flesh and blood examples like Frederick Franz. and even older anointed ones.

  2 centenarians make 200 years, starting to partake, overlap by 20 years each, make 40 years, NET total 160 years. plus 1914 = 2074 plus 1 year of shortened GT after rapture of anointed,= 2075. Armageddon time. minus 100 =1975. perfect timing.

  what wt has not explained yet, is, how the anointed generation dies at the onset of the great tribulation, but also after all has occurred.
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  The WT has failed to explain fundamental doctrines

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.

  i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.

  i did not either understand from the wt what is love.

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  waton

  The ransom was explained, paid on The Passover ( with the lamb) presented to the provider/ demander deity after the 40 days after the ascension into the clouds, , and acknowledged on the return trip, 10 days later at Pentecost when the spirit, like flames/shine was given. Wt added the twist that 2075+ 1000 years later the rest of the ransomed fallen humans will have the benefits of the purchase price too.

  All that because of the talking snake. snake oil?. churches teach it too, with variations.
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  any point within space can be described by coordinates, all of time exists as well and any events that have happened or will happen already exist, described by their own coordinates within the universe

  DJW, yes, for example I expect to be in upstate NY on April8 2024, at 3 pm, together with the shadow of the Moon, but do you believe that all that already exists?
  
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  --the idea that the past still exists, --- the idea that the past still exists-- DJW

  Time as such always existed, stretching into the eternal past, and already extends into the eternal future, because

  Energy can not be created or be destroyed, and it obviously needs time to exist in, eternally. but, we have travelled from our past into the present, toward our future time, so,

  our past does not exist anymore nor does our particular future yet either. Lots of light and sound is still on the way from the past though, and we will continue to receive it from the now empty past, some of it 13 billion years old, -- all from an now empty past.

  As for the eternal ESP domain, wait for a message.

  enJoy.
  
  
  
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  Wedding Anniversary

  by BoogerMan in

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  to celebrate our wedding anniversary, i booked the best table i could get for me and the mrs., but she didn't appreciate my efforts.

  i was sure she'd played snooker before.

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  waton

  yeah, clinging / clicking the balls together.