Vh: yeah, it is like a protection racket. you threaten people with the GT, created by the deity, then offer them a way ot by becoming slaves. The point of the Op was, that wt, in that "study", heralded John's writings as supreme on the ransom, but then developed amnesia when it comes to the key part: Jesus as quoted in John 6 on life through partaking.
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by waton infor those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: ransom.
after the talking snake and consequences part: .
"john wrote more about the ransom" then others.
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WT'S memory loss, minimizing the "memorial",
by waton infor those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: ransom.
after the talking snake and consequences part: .
"john wrote more about the ransom" then others.
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waton
is there not a strong chain of steps in the application of the ransom? can you take, comunion, the Eucharist, the memorial denial ritual out of achieving it's goal?
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"My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"
by Diogenesister incan anyone remember the reasoning the watchtower gave for jesus speaking these words?
if you have a reference that would be even better!.
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waton
The script writers must have gotten the plot wrong. It is very unlikely that the lead character would quote an ancient text verbatim, in his last breath, to prove he was fulfilling prophecy. unless
he really was worried about his credibility.
I like the way it left open the identity of the deity ,though. .
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"My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"
by Diogenesister incan anyone remember the reasoning the watchtower gave for jesus speaking these words?
if you have a reference that would be even better!.
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waton
to fulfil a prophecy in the psalms. A self fulfilling, controlled "messianic prophecy, mentioned in connection / contrast with those he could not, like the dividing of the looted clothing, the intact leg bones.
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Then there was light.
by Earnest inthe universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the big bang.
after an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages.
according to a new study, probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the big bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.
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waton
Surtsy Island didn't exist before 1963.
SB: and already being colonized by life that started to profilate 4 billion years ago.
I worked in a coalmine once, where fossilized life forms were buried 1000+ meters below the surface. May be that carbon rich new layer on Surtsey will turn into coal too, and buried that deep.
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WT'S memory loss, minimizing the "memorial",
by waton infor those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: ransom.
after the talking snake and consequences part: .
"john wrote more about the ransom" then others.
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waton
For those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: Ransom
after the talking snake and consequences part:
"John wrote more about the Ransom" then others. . --- yeah, but
How about chapter 6, where partaking of the symbolic flesh and blood is a prerequisite for getting to enjoy the benefit of the payment, that the deity exacted, strangely feeling bound by the later law of soul for soul?
Babylon the great also handles that commodity, the ransom value, and they are ready to withhold it, perhaps, to even those in highest position, like POT-US, who do not protect all life, even the very young. so
wt where is your memory? where does it say you will get life restored by the ransom / New Covenant without partaking?
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Then there was light.
by Earnest inthe universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the big bang.
after an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages.
according to a new study, probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the big bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.
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waton
Hoyle's Big Bang implies an initial acceleration and then a translating of the first energy burst into distance, and they are still fine tuning the rate at that expansion. and it is accelerating, which means more energy being expanded as we go, One alternative theory has the universe acquiring that from the spacetime that the universe expands into. another is of course that matter, stored since the beginning, is converted into energy to fuel & drivel further acceleration.
One feature of the Big Bang follow up in mainstream science, is inflation, an expansion of spacetime faster than even the speed of light.
There are many unexpected transient events in our solar system SB.
It speaks for the robustness of the resonance based harmony/stability here, that it was sturdy enough to allow fragile life to evolve over 4.5 billion years.
all done with energy and the right natural laws.
There is a theory, that universes that BIg banged with different laws, did not last to see life emerge.
My money is on that is was wrought right in the first place.
second thought, if heavy elements were only forget in the normous pressure of stars, supernovae, why was there only hydrogen and some helium after the beginning, if it was such a banging compression?
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Some Other Terms For The "Big Bang".....
by titch infolks: as you probably all know, it has been speculated that the whole universe, or cosmos, started with what has been called "the big bang.
" but, i've thought up some other terms for the "bb".
how about the big boom....or, the big kaboom....or, the big explosion...the big ignition...or...the big cosmic fartation.
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waton
Time only exists when matter exists
tbk: that is a popular concept, pleases the thinker, without him or other matter, nothing matters, to her, time is a byproduct of the hard stuff. For such ones, time is only an
emerging derivative.
matter, of course is made from energy, and that powerful potential for work can not be created or destroyed and needs uncreated time, pre-BB energytime and timespace to exist in.
Matter is a mere newcomer to the cosmos, it needs no pre- Big Bang bounces to be. Try Dirac.
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Some Other Terms For The "Big Bang".....
by titch infolks: as you probably all know, it has been speculated that the whole universe, or cosmos, started with what has been called "the big bang.
" but, i've thought up some other terms for the "bb".
how about the big boom....or, the big kaboom....or, the big explosion...the big ignition...or...the big cosmic fartation.
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waton
The BB or Big Beginning or the
BETMaCo Big Energy to Matter Conversion. or
SOTTT or BOTTT, start or beginning of Travel through Time. Note, we travel through time, a possible creator is in time, was stationary in the infinite past, and is already waiting for us in the future ( James chapter 1, "there is no variation or rotation of the shadow" , sundial for the deity.
F124 event. At the Big Bang, the cosmos went from I dimension, (time) to (two) 3 more, namely it added heights, length and depth. or 3D + time. 3D to hang all that newfelutin matter into.
SoBEG or BoBEG Beginning of the grabbing of Energy to make matter, feed expansion. Note: The universe is still travelling into the future, expanding into time, and acquiring [dsark] energy in the process, Noter, all energy in the cosmos was not used up in the Big Bang, there is more in timespace and in energytime.
note, you were there. if your energy, matter did not go through the Big Bang, you would not be here. so, if asked, where is the Big Bang, or the new names event located now ? we all are individually , it is the others that spread away from us.
TFA the first acceleration.
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Then there was light.
by Earnest inthe universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the big bang.
after an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages.
according to a new study, probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the big bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.
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waton
wasted all those years believing a god had created the universe when I now consider the wonders of the universe
Fa 1962: why consider it a waste, it was your life, hopefully well lived. now,
these wonders of the universe have been developing for 13.8 billion years, our planet only since 4.5,, so, just because the bigger machines, higher telescopes show us how delicate and immense the whole thing really is, does not mean that suddenly the possible maker of it all does not exist or matters any more. just because we know now how it works, does not mean it was not work in the first place. yes,
the scientist deserve credit for their discoveries, but more credit / respect is due for the possible one that made it ready to be discovered in the first place. btw,
the term "big bang" was meant to be a joke when is was coined. instead,
do not take the "first light " question lightly.