Then there was light.

by Earnest 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • Earnest
    The Universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the Big Bang. After an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages. According to a new study, Probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the Big Bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.
  • Sea Breeze
  • Earnest

    Sea Breeze, unless you doubt that the first stars brought light it is a red herring to quibble about star formation. The cosmic age is determined by the redshift of these stars.

  • WokenfromJWcult

    What was existing 13.9 billion years ago?

  • truth_b_known

    Also, there may have been no beginning. See "Big Bounce Theory"

  • waton
    What was existing 13.9 billion years ago?

    WfJc: assuming that there are inviolate universal laws, like the infamous " perfect human life to be sacrificed" applying in all domains, , ( tongue firmly in cheek here) , then

    some natural laws reach back in time beyond the BB. ( Penrose, Krauss) example:

    Energy is indestructible and can not be created. therefore:

    minus 13.9 bys,and counting backward? it was energytime, eternal energy existing in timespace,

    now we have "coffeetime, teatime" , Einstein's spacetime.

    The Big Bang happened only at a single point in time, but time as a dimension stretches indefinitely in all directions, always has, always will.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    quibble about star formation.

    You are quite right, if you are willing to ignore the little problem that there are no known physical laws that allow for star formation.

    Your post assumes a Big Bang as a starting point. Here is a lengthy list of problems with a BB as well as its failed predictions:

  • Fadeaway1962

    Really enjoy watching Brian Cox adventure's in space and time,

    How the universe works ,

    He has a way of explaining physics in a way people can understand , the advancements they have made in the past few decades has only opened up new aspects of physics ,wish now I hadn't wasted all those years believing a god had created the universe when I now consider the wonders of the universe and why humans have a desire to learn more about the universe and it's origin.

  • Earnest

    WokenfromJWcult : What was existing 13.9 billion years ago?

    Or, to rephrase that, what was there before light?

    The same Bible verse says And God said: 'Let there be light.' Then there was light.

    So, before light (roughly 13.8 billion years ago) there was God. As waton pointed out, energy is indestructible. It can be converted to matter, or matter can be converted to energy. But why did it happen when it happened? Personally I find the premise that God got the ball rolling to be the most reasonable. There are other ideas. Lawrence Krauss wrote a book on why there is something rather than nothing in his book - a universe from nothing - but I did not find it convincing. If there was not nothing there must have been something.

  • Rocketman123

    The same Bible verse says And God said:

    ......Let there be a Big Bang and there was a big bang !

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