for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.
in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!
all jws partook.
jhine, good points. I think you are conflating the thread above, about eternity and this topic, about wt pulling out of the thin air the abstention from the bread and wine. and
yes, the bible can be complicated, and it helps one's sanity to keep it simple. as far as we know, only energy is immortal, can not be destroyed, or created, and is eternal, always was and will be., and so is time itself.
a pew study from 2020 (but one i just now came upon myself) reported that the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to have a mental health condition.
the worst suffering group are white females, ages 18-29 where over 56% have admitted to be described by their own doctors as having a mental health condition.
conservative females of the same age group suffer at less than half that number (27%).. while women tend to have more mental health problems than men (don't be mad at me for saying it, this is what the study reports) it is notable that liberal men have a higher percentage of mental health conditions than conservative women in the same age group.
like the insane out of control spending. give away money apres nous, le deluge. the 2 trou d' eau.
the books of matthew, mark, luke, john, and the beginning of acts are filled with what the authors purport are statements of jesus.
jesus is quoted as making several statements about "the kingdom of heaven" or "the kingdom of god".
those statements are often given as parables that start with a phrase something like "the kingdom of heaven is like...".
not jesus talking directly, but perhaps directing the transfer: Col. 1:13 a "kingdom of the son's love."
a pew study from 2020 (but one i just now came upon myself) reported that the more liberal you are, the more likely you are to have a mental health condition.
the worst suffering group are white females, ages 18-29 where over 56% have admitted to be described by their own doctors as having a mental health condition.
conservative females of the same age group suffer at less than half that number (27%).. while women tend to have more mental health problems than men (don't be mad at me for saying it, this is what the study reports) it is notable that liberal men have a higher percentage of mental health conditions than conservative women in the same age group.
creative, realistic, hard, smart working people tend to be healthy. and conservative, closely in tune with creation / nature.
in retrospect, for lurkerking fence sitters.
, today's( may 30 ) study article.:.
a mother un lovingly, on "apostate" advice, does everything, right and wrong to keep her daughter from becoming a wt slave.
I suspect the majority are made up to fit the current article agenda.
SGoE. exactly , and that makes wt writers 100 % responsible for their creatures actions, and the jw's sickening reaction.
Admiring a sister, that spends 3 hours a day on the phone, writing letters to annoyed and protesting strangers, but refuses to communicate with her own child. in the name of wtBtS. inc. and
Condemning the desperate action of a mother that wants to spare her child the same fate.
in retrospect, for lurkerking fence sitters.
, today's( may 30 ) study article.:.
a mother un lovingly, on "apostate" advice, does everything, right and wrong to keep her daughter from becoming a wt slave.
OnTheWayOut7 hours ago
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in other words who is more cruel, a mother in desperation hitting out at her daughter for joining a cult or
a fanatical devotee, shunning a son for life, never wanting to talk to them again, no matter what? with no way, --out!
in retrospect, for lurkerking fence sitters.
, today's( may 30 ) study article.:.
a mother un lovingly, on "apostate" advice, does everything, right and wrong to keep her daughter from becoming a wt slave.
Sadly she also resorted to physical abuse
BB, rtn, thank you for filling in the details for otwo. I found it offensive that in the story, wt linked the physical abuse to the contact with the "apostates", that is more of a wt reaction, they have stated they would, and will kill them given the opportunity.
In the other, earlier story, what could be labelled as "physical abuse", would of course be overdone "loving discipline from jehovah" , the "rod of correction"..
I just liked to link those two wt mother stories, Wt implies that abandoning a child for life is the proper course. cruelly persecuting the dissenters.
When you look at the deadly persecution of minorities around the world, by the millions, wt adherents are really cry babies. nothing unique, not a identifying mark of the uniquely true religion or community.
in retrospect, for lurkerking fence sitters.
, today's( may 30 ) study article.:.
a mother un lovingly, on "apostate" advice, does everything, right and wrong to keep her daughter from becoming a wt slave.
in retrospect, for lurkerking fence sitters. , today's( May 30 ) study article.:
A mother un lovingly, on "apostate" advice, does everything, right and wrong to keep her daughter from becoming a wt slave.
in a previous article, a mother, upon having her son leave the so called wt "truth", decides never to talk to him again in any way, becomes an ueber wt slave aka pioneer. how loving both examples.
that is how afraid wt is that diddenters get a hearing ear. discover the truth that sets free.
billions of people around the world beleive in a god of some sort or other who exerts some power or influence to some degree or other in lifes affairs .. i don`t think there would be anywhere near that figure that would entertain the possability of extra terrestial life elsewhere in the universe.. and i find that curious .. the ancients didn`t know that their were other humans on other continents on this planet until they ventured out and found them .. we live somewhere in the milky way galaxy with millions of suns and planets that orbit them.. our galaxy is only one of trillions if not zillions of galaxys in the known universe.. look at the diversity of life on just this one planet earth ,what possabilitys could exist elsewhere ?
on alien worastronomers can use the hubble space telescope to view galaxies near the edge of the observable universe (the region of space from which light has had a chance to reach us within the last 13.77 billion years).
by examining a very tiny portion of the sky, counting up the number of visible galaxies in the universe in that specific region, and then multiplying that number to account for all the regions of the sky, astronomers estimate the number of galaxies in the universe.
I am not questioning here whether or not UFO`s or UAP exists but whether or not in all probability life in one form or another could exist elsewhere in the universe
s3, but you put that question in contrast to the probability of a creator. or god figure not created by wo/ men/
one of our 9 planets has life. Unless the universes created themselves, could you think of the possibility of one creator? even if he/she used agents?
The same laws, substances exist throughout the cosmos, what do you expect?
billions of people around the world beleive in a god of some sort or other who exerts some power or influence to some degree or other in lifes affairs .. i don`t think there would be anywhere near that figure that would entertain the possability of extra terrestial life elsewhere in the universe.. and i find that curious .. the ancients didn`t know that their were other humans on other continents on this planet until they ventured out and found them .. we live somewhere in the milky way galaxy with millions of suns and planets that orbit them.. our galaxy is only one of trillions if not zillions of galaxys in the known universe.. look at the diversity of life on just this one planet earth ,what possabilitys could exist elsewhere ?
on alien worastronomers can use the hubble space telescope to view galaxies near the edge of the observable universe (the region of space from which light has had a chance to reach us within the last 13.77 billion years).
by examining a very tiny portion of the sky, counting up the number of visible galaxies in the universe in that specific region, and then multiplying that number to account for all the regions of the sky, astronomers estimate the number of galaxies in the universe.
we learned the hard way, that both energy and a process (laws) are needed to create, shape anything. The amount of energy locked up in matter is mind boggling. so is the amount of matter.
energy is uncreated. while a baby seems to create itself, why should be that true of the universe?
replicating the start of life, which is a unique user of energy, is very difficult, even if you have all the ingredients, and can create the condition that would favour the restart of the process, so:
with all the trillions^4 of places of places available in the universes, it could have started often. to do that you would need only one creator, you would have many creatures.
Energy and laws from the top down, not bottom up.
gods are made up creatures of/ in our minds. Aliens would be fellow travellers using energy longer, better.
enJoy the time and energy, stuff allotted to you.
