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  The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

  by pistolpete in

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  this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

  and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

  all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

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  waton

  The fault in my analogy is, of course,

  pp: the fault is that you failed to mention that the threat of the explosion is planned, the bomb planted by the all powerful deity himself, and the timer is claimed to go off at a given "day and hour", only known to its creator.

  sounds like a protection racket, unless there is another hook, namely that that bomb is somehow the only way to deal with a characteristic of the music lovers, , even the band. .

  In any case, think of the story of Jonah, who was fooled by the ultimatum-setting deity too.

  The thread vanished, the ultimatum expired. the fuse fizzled. All that preaching not for the good of the preachers. but,

  Nineveh does not exist any more, -- surely their genes though? Isis?
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  Transparency Questions

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  here are some questions to ask witnesses.

  how would you alter or improve or add to them?.

  transparency questions.

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  waton

  although she is long dead, I am supposedly her contemporary....

  Nitty Gritty, not really, con temporary is just that temporary, together traveling through time for a time , her time. you are now alone. contemporaries no more.

  How is it possible to maintain that Jesus was teaching that the 1914 generation would not pass away?
  It's obvious that we have not understood this correctly.

  NG: My sub questions to you on this please: --- to show why, and it has nothing to do with overlap.

  Jesus said that in effect: " this generation would pass away after all these things occur"

  a) Did he mean by "all" the destruction of the temple, the city of Jerusalem,? --

  b) would that mean in the 2nd fulfillment 'Babylon the great, Armageddon'? if so,
  

  c) How do you support wt's teaching that the anointed generation will be called to heaven before Armageddon at the outset of the GT?

  thank you: great discussion!
  
  
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  Headship and WT's Changed Understanding

  by Bobcat in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.

  8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.

  wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.

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  waton

  If a woman's hair is by nature longer than a man's, then it follows that her hair is her head covering.

  :fujw: Many ladies in this neck of the woods have very pert short hairdos. better than men's; when viewed from behind. seeing those that "love the first, [forward] places in the synagogue".

  from that rearward perspective you can not tell the difference between male and female, very telling!
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  Headship and WT's Changed Understanding

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.

  8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.

  wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.

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  waton

  How convenient for the WT.

  iX; this is not a happenstance that fell into wt writers laps.

  I remember it word for word in Yankee Stadium/ Polo Grounds NY City 1958. when this exo- biblical procedure was initiated. with 100s of thousands listening, watching,
  
  
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  Headship and WT's Changed Understanding

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.

  8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.

  wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.

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  waton

  What does "publicly prays" mean in the context of a home bible study? If a woman is in her house

  iX: wt wants to control the world, so: all prayers connected with a reported activity, bible study, backcall, head count, even done hidden at home is an extension of the congregation function. which jurisdiction covers the world. therefore any such organised, taught or mandated activity requires authorizing head covering.

  curious that women can teach at meetings, hair showing! --- wt explanation for that grave violation of bible principle?

  The sister is speaking in the congregation *** under the auspices, control of a male (the conductor) , his headshio.

  *** in violation of the "lords commandments in 1 Cor 14 and 1 Tim. 2. silence ladies please, how pleasing.
  
  
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  What was the defining moment that started your becoming a JW ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. beliefs

  let me explain what i mean: i was in the company of a workmate when i looked at my hands and my arms and pointed out the veins and said something like look at that, isn`it amazing how veins and arteriies circulate the blood through our bodies ?.

  he later explained to me he wasn`t sure what he should say to me as we had been working together for about six years and he had never once brought up about his jw background .he was what we would call a weak witness and he considered me a street kid who swore and drank too much.

  i was twenty years old at the time.. i can`t remember the actual conversations that transpired ,but thats what started me down the road to becoming a witness and then convincing my gf to join me and about two years later we were married in a kh.. can you point to any one thing or conversation that started you down the road to becoming a witness?.

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  waton

  Here with me, a workmate too, it had something to do with witnesses not being in the army, not "destroying the Earth" in war. ( he had been a cook in the Waffen SS) he was cooky too, war experiences and to much lead in his system from work. I was baptised 6 month later, pioneer 6 month after that. special a year after that., back to semi-normal in 1975
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  Single Pretty Girls that are JWs, have so much potential, but sadly........

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.

  with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.

  especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.

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  waton

  There were also a fair number of well groomed, "zealous" young men involved who, sadly for the girls, seemed to be completely uninterested in the opposite sex.

  Q that's a fact, and it must have something to do with monsanto, dupont bayer, the hormones that are the residue of those treatments in our food. You cant grow big udders in cows without depressing the the opposite gender, depressing sex.
  
  
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  I need a partner

  by Alexscott in

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  my name is alex i lost my wife two years ago and i have been alone since then i have a kid who need a mom just hope i can find it here .

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  waton

  Alex, hope that you are coping with your loss, we are a helping people here, dealing mainly with the loss of faith in the wt religion, which is a good loss. We dont know how your loss occurred, if it was through a divorce from an unfaithful person, that was a good loss. The reason I agree with Simon and smiddy that this might not be a good place for inviting replies to help you --- is, that some members here have repudiated all restraint that religion imposed on them. some, not all.

  You would be better served to expose your plight on a site that caters to those that are totally committed to religious values, strong-three-stranded marriages, "angelic", even pastor / elder supervision. Covit permitting I would recommend the orient, where family values are still strong. start with Luzon island.
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  Headship and WT's Changed Understanding

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think anyone has mentioned that the february 2021 study wt (p. 15, 16; par.

  8) changed wt's long standing view on headship within the congregation.

  wt used to view all baptized males as being the head of all baptized sisters.. this view led to such absurdities as a sister having to wear a head covering on a bible study because her baptized 10 year old son was sitting in on the study with her.

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  waton

  they are not every sister's head, BUT that it's for organization's sake

  nbd: The basic premise is, that the males have the teaching role, the firstborn males in the family, tribes.

  whenever a lady has to step in, she covers her head. no big deal all ladies had their head covered all the time back then in bible writing times. so:

  when "sisters" now have the major teaching role in the comments on wt material, at least they should cover their head. but as 1 Cor 14, 1 Tim. 2. clearly states, be quiet for a change to at least give a veneer to the claim that wt is a bible based organisation.

  Eve, assumed to be in the nude, should have had a headcovering, because she spoke for the small congregation she was part of. or call her husband and then take the covering off.
  
  
  
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  Single Pretty Girls that are JWs, have so much potential, but sadly........

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.

  with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.

  especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.

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  waton

  Even the older guys will have their eyes on the younger woman in the congregation.

  r123, that is a given, marriage is about procreation, having and taking care of children. and wisdom (the bible) and evolution demand that beauty (for future, the kid's) mate selection) and yes, a small waist, are essential.

  Beauty is divine. Young and old should rise to the occasion to perpetuate it.

  I do not see these days among the young singles the urgency that the damned -( not cursed but restrained) - up sex drive leads forces them into marriage. With the many eligible young sisters and brothers within the horizon, the place should be quivering with tension, sparks flying, where is it gone?