---a position of we dont know --Even energy has to have an origin of its existence. MF:
why? what ever happened to the concept of infinity, even expressed mathematically as the sleeping 8 ?
just because we dont like it, can not picture / comprehend it, will not 'will' it out of existence.
But the Op is correct, if you are strictly limited to stick to the material, the stuff we have right now in this short - lived universe, you are on safer grounds.