i have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
it would be unlikely for such a person to exist for very long in that position.
LHG: If a "Jesus" character as depicted in the gospels, were to move into a wt congregation, with good recommendation, as deserved, he would be disfellowshipped within 3 1/2 years.
i have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
very interesting theme. pre 1975 wt had a brief chance to stop the crassest politicking when they had mandatory rotating of power "roles",
There are natural leaders. The same Nazis, Commies and now Democrats staying and rising to that slot. Problem is:
The actions required are incompatible with what the "jesus" ideal calls for. Slaves being the ones in the first positions.
PS: WT's impossible doctrines, and their flip flopping actually enhances the Power-drunk elders position, because they can rub that in, their power depends not on their being on the right or righteous side, but on the power they grabbed and wt gave them. .
does anyone have wts quotations showing that the great crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the millennium?.
At the end of the thousand year reign another war breaks out
s3: it is even more dragged out, the war breaks out after the 1000 years, in the biblical 8 st. millennium after Adam.
does anyone have wts quotations showing that the great crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the millennium?.
be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the Millennium?
Vdh, sorry have no wt quotations, but the book of revelations says that the final test, a condition to have passed, to be declared righteous, will happen not "at the close of the 100 years, but:
after the 10000 years have ave ended.
fail final test, face "fair well" to everlasting life, together with those cornered at the 4 corners of the Earth.
wt twisting scriptures, repeatedly, it is not "at the close" but after the full count to 1k has ended. Loyola, Blondie, help please.
so the liberals in all their intelligence or lack of it, have put the homeless up in hotels and are set to force hotels to take them in while giving them free drugs and food.
all they are doing is reinforcing bad behavior.
liberals destroy and conservatives have to clean up the mess.
That trend stretches all the way up the coast to Alaska. No Trump hotels involved though.
All this government largesse to industry and individuals will come at a price later.
from my memoirs ...______.
.....moments later, thoughts inside my head still reverberated as though i were a bell struck into vibrations beyond control.
i trembled.
captivating !. ahhh, "sea gulls soaring" on CA pacific breeze, waiting for a meal on the beach?
20/20 (this year's) hindsights, reading between the lines:.
par 7-10. hanna's infertility: problem?
go to the organisation for help; the center of worship, shilo, to eli and his sons.
the wt study, now beamed right into your bedroom, featuring pedophiles and adulterers, picking up pictures of you and your family in the process, is not drivel.
It is carefully design indoctrination by wt writers, and fed to you by the local spokespersons.who are re-enforcing the stories in their brains by talking.
par 16 david's sins whitewash again.
par 21: last days are coming to the close.
1. and this is most important, everyone listen up: dress up like you normally would for meeting!
-oh, gawd.. 2. if you use a zoom background, make sure it is not distracting, or something crass like prison.
stick with something dignified and subtle.
Zoom is in some ways worse than being at the hall
LHG; you are wise: here too: no zooms in our rooms, bed or living. camera off and taped over. Cover ready to flip up to cover screen, to screen out undesirables.
20/20 (this year's) hindsights, reading between the lines:.
par 7-10. hanna's infertility: problem?
go to the organisation for help; the center of worship, shilo, to eli and his sons.
20/20 (this year's) hindsights, reading between the lines:
par 7-10. Hanna's infertility: problem? go to the organisation for help; The center of worship, Shilo, to Eli and his sons. that will fix your problem.
Par 17. with problems go to elders, yeah, all the elder's wives will know about it, and your new problems will dwarf any you had before.
Elders bsw, who can hide their wayward ways for 2 years, and seem to be able to con everyone by being "apparently blessed", are not subject to discipline. David revisited. and:
i'm not totally new here, as i'm reading since some time...then i tried to sign up but had some technical issue with the email,eventually recovered..... i'm from north italy, for your info from the region where the covid is worse.
i'm male, generation millennial(...unfortunately not the overlapped generation :))) ) ..sorry to don't go in so much details, but i'm pimo ;).
hope i can contribute to this community and help as much i got from you guys.... have nice weekend!.
unfortunately not the overlapped generation
IC, welcome, it looks you brought all the mafioso here out of the woodworks. during ww2 I Lived just north of you, in Gerritt Loesch's territory. so,
You are not a partaker, why is that unfortunate? anyway, not wanting to hijack your thread, if your interests are doctrinal:
You could be, by wt measurements.as defined by DS. so, using Dave's remarks in the chart video,
Let us say you knew one of those long lived Sardinians, living past 100. One born in 1900 would be 14 in 1914, a sure partaker. all partook before 1935) When you were ~ 14, he was still alive, and well. so, you millennials are actually overlapping with the e centenarians of 1914. just drinking Chianti all the time,j not only at passover time.
As an argument for your still "in" friends, family: let them do the math. You are a possible oberlapper (you actually are)*, born ~ 1986. When will your Sardinian generation end? not before 2090! there is a new wt derived definition of 'soon.'
* alongside the overlapping anointed partakers live billions of overlapping overlappers.
Enjoy your live!, the intimate family overlap that creates new generations!
