Does anyone have WTS quotations showing that the Great Crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the Millennium?
Millennium Promises
by Vanderhoven7 8 Replies latest watchtower bible
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waton
be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the Millennium?
Vdh, sorry have no wt quotations, but the book of revelations says that the final test, a condition to have passed, to be declared righteous, will happen not "at the close of the 100 years, but:
after the 10000 years have ave ended.
fail final test, face "fair well" to everlasting life, together with those cornered at the 4 corners of the Earth.
wt twisting scriptures, repeatedly, it is not "at the close" but after the full count to 1k has ended. Loyola, Blondie, help please.
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Listener
They teach that they are declared righteous now but in a different way to how the anointed are declared righteous. What happens at the end of the 1,000 years is that the claim they then become children of God.
You can find more info on this link about them being children of God and being declared righteous.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200274276#h=15
Here is one reference about being declared righteous-
Watchtower 86 2/15
Concerning those with earthly life prospects, they are now declared righteous as to friendship with God, just as were Abraham, Rahab, and others of ancient times. During Christ’s Millennial Reign, they will gradually be raised to human perfection, so that after a final testing “the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God.” (Romans 8:19-21; James 2:21-26) Thus, obedient humans will be declared righteous for everlasting life on earth.—Compare John 10:10; Isaiah 9:7; 11:1-9; 35:1-6; 65:17-25.
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Anders Andersen
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/1200026595/18/0
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1985883#h=52:0-53:329
By faith in “the blood of the Lamb,” the “other sheep” are given an approved standing before Jehovah and are thus declared righteous for friendship with him and for survival during the “great tribulation.” They will attain to perfection by the end of the Millennium. After the final test they will be declared righteous for life.
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I think this comes closest. It appears this doctrine was changed around 1985?
All quotes from later dates have no ifs and buts wrt the other sheep being declared righteous.
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cofty
WT 1 December 1985 p17 par.16-20 Declared Righteous as a Friend of God
The “great crowd,” who survive the “great tribulation,” are not already declared righteous for life. We can see this from the fact that the chapter that mentions them goes on to say: “The Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life.” (Revelation 7:17) So, even though God previously counted them as righteous compared to mankind in general and as his friends, they need additional help, or steps to be taken, so that they can be declared righteous for life.
During the Millennium, the enthroned Lamb, Christ Jesus, together with his 144,000 associate kings and priests, will apply a program of spiritual and physical “curing of the nations.” (Revelation 22:1, 2) Such “nations” will be made up of the survivors of the great tribulation, any children born to them after Har–Magedon, and those who come back in the “resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) All who put faith in Christ’s blood and accomplish appropriate “deeds” will eventually have their names written in “the book of life.”—Revelation 20:11-15.
By the end of Christ’s Millennial Reign, those of earth’s inhabitants who have shown that they accept Christ’s ransom and will live by Jehovah’s standards will have been raised to perfection. (Revelation 20:5) They will be as Adam was before he sinned. Like him, they will be tested as to their obedience.
Immediately after the Millennium, Christ will hand over to his Father a perfect human race. (1 Corinthians 15:28) “Satan will be let loose” for a decisive test of mankind. (Revelation 20:7, 8) The names of any who fail under test will not be “found written in the book of life.” They will symbolically be “hurled into the lake of fire,” which “means the second death.”—Revelation 20:15; 21:8.
Those who prove loyal to Jehovah will have their names indelibly written in the “book of life,” as being perfect in integrity and worthy of the right to everlasting life on earth. Jehovah himself will then declare them righteous in the complete sense.
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Anders Andersen
Thus, in summing up, we see that from Pentecost to the present time only those of the “body of Christ” are declared righteous, and that by faith; these will gain actual righteousness in the “first resurrection.” And the rest of the obedient ones of mankind will be declared righteous to life everlasting after meeting the test at the end of the thousand-year reign of Christ.
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smiddy3
Jehovah / Yahweh the God of the Bible loves to drag things out doesn`t he /she ? Not only would you have to suffer more of the same these past 140 years but it will stretch out for another one thousand years of even more rules and regulations of fear ,obligation and guilt put upon you ,if the members of the G.B. are to go by .
But even after all of that ( the next thousand years ) Jehovah / Yahweh is still not satisfied with humans ,he decides to let his old buddy Satan out of his prison to stir up and cause more trouble for humans .Rev.20 : 7-9
At the end of the thousand year reign another war breaks out against Gog and Magog that Jehovah has let develop during this thousand year reign and the number of them is as the sand of the sea.? Some paradise to look forward to eh?
And apparently humans who number the sands of the sea are again going to be destroyed .
I think I`ll give it a pass ,thank you.
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Vanderhoven7
Thanks guys! This is exactly what I was looking for.
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waton
At the end of the thousand year reign another war breaks out
s3: it is even more dragged out, the war breaks out after the 1000 years, in the biblical 8 st. millennium after Adam.