what ever happened to " stand back and enjoy your salvation ", Noah peacefully bobbing above Everest? The anointed "generation" having fled Jerusalem, out of harms way?
Posts by waton
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18Image: Great Tribulation
by OrphanCrow inthe org's fear theme has really been emphasized recently- the bunker video and now the convention video with jws being pursued by guys with assault rifles.
this image comes from the watchtower july 2017 questions from readers: would it be fitting for a christian to keep a firearm, such as a handgun or a rifle, for protection against other humans?.
the caption for the image is this: during the great tribulation, christians will rely on jehovah and not try to defend themselves.
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RC Lowell Mass (USA)
by loneranger inconvention in lowell mass june 15-17 2018...about 4500 in attendance...11 baptized (0.24%)...believe about 6 of those were kids of current jw's..
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waton
just to make the math easier, at a recent assembly in the Pacific North West, there was a figure of ~1% baptized, less than 5% of that new recruits. Not a valid baptism, not by people that knew what they were doing. No doves, perhaps bird brains though.
Father forgive them, they do not know what they are doing.
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Review: 2018 "Be Courageous!" convention
by neat blue dog infriday and saturday were for the most part pretty light, not too culty or doctinal, could easily suck in the unsuspecting.
there were a couple of hypocritical lines that i took note of however.
at one point the speaker said, "if your boss fires everyone who disagrees with him but promotes everyone who agrees with him, you might be tempted to agree with him just to keep your job.
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waton
Only saw the special effects of the Jonah movie, the screensaver, surfing viking ship, so:
Have jws realized, that the production's slickness hides the fact that they, like Jonah , are being set up to be false prophets? duped , fooled into proclaiming a message that was never meant to be taken seriously?
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JWs & "generations"
by Magnum inwe all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.
but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.
his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.
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waton
they'll have wonderful futures. It truly is unfair. Where is my reward for all my suffering? My reward is working a low-paying job until my body rots out from under me.
that is where wt bears responsibility, and stands condemned. but
others had their future enhanced though, helped out of problems, shyness, meeting on par pretty non-college girls, virgins even.
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JWs & "generations"
by Magnum inwe all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.
but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.
his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.
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waton
There is a strange thing about old people, the people in their 80, 90, that they are happier than the young folks.
They don't remember past predicaments unless they work at it. The generation question is a wt problem a real serious one*, but not theirs. If your mother is a natural 80 year old, and not in pain, having successfully reproduced, and have gotten to that stage, should make her content.
The really scary, hidden thought for them is, that if the wt survival promise is wrong, the resurrection, immortal souls promise might be wrong too, so: do not bring the subject up, but concentrate the conversations on the good of life itself, the offspring. the spring.
*I have seen only one attempt to seriously debate a glaring inconsistency of the current wt proposition.
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My understanding on the generation doctrine...
by PJ Delaney inthis is my understanding on the generation doctrine.. and i actually think might be correct!.
watch this video and see what you think.... i regret that the sound on this is pretty bad, but i’d be grateful if people considered the material presented here.
if you think i have a point to what i’m saying here...... spread the news!.
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waton
If the admin wish to remove this thread, please do.
I guess wt would like to remove the generation debacle too, but cant.
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My understanding on the generation doctrine...
by PJ Delaney inthis is my understanding on the generation doctrine.. and i actually think might be correct!.
watch this video and see what you think.... i regret that the sound on this is pretty bad, but i’d be grateful if people considered the material presented here.
if you think i have a point to what i’m saying here...... spread the news!.
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waton
regret that the sound on this is pretty bad, but I’d be grateful if people considered the material presented here
on top of that, a few here are hard of hearing. so, how about getting more ideas written down? for example:
Since Jesus said the generation will pass away, once all has happened, when and how is that going to happen? in the so called "second fulfillment"?
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How can you tell someone they have bad breath without offending?
by James Mixon ini told someone and they became very angry with me.
we have been friends for many years but lately his breath is eye burning.
he is single so he doesn't have a wife to tell him, dear you need a mint.
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waton
I have seen people bringing a toothbrush and pretending to do a demonstation in a private moment for the afflicted.
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Universal sovereignty on trial
by Factfulness ini just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.
they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.
god failed to prove his right to rule.
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waton
imperfect men? failed to succed even on he perfect ones.
fair contest? ?why then intervene by killing them, confusing their language? It is not supposed to be about who is the strongest, but it turns out to be about who is the biggest cheat, hobbling the other contestants. Bad screen writers that's all.
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Dreaming about Trump and Kim
by Gorbatchov inhow indoctrination works: i was dreaming tonight about the summit between trump and kim.. heard the bible text about "peace and security" and "disqusting thing at a holy place"in my head and my brains were calculating with the number 666 (=6/12, date of today).. this is no joke.
since 1995 mentally out and since 2008 realy out, educated and reading quality stuff and still my brains do this crazy stuff.
amazing!.
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waton
Heard the bible text about "peace and security"
Not to worry, just a few days ago there was no saying of peace, security, instead squashed hands (Macron), fist on tables (Merkel), furled eyebrows (trou d'eau), no security, peace there.