Posts by waton

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All of Chile's 34 bishops RESIGN over a sex abuse and cover-up scandal after crisis meeting with the Pope

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5744503/chilean-bishops-offer-resignation-pope-abuse-scandal-statement.html.

all of chile's 34 bishops resign over a sex abuse and cover-up scandal after crisis meeting with the pope.

may 18, 2018. pope francis has accused chile's bishops of destroying evidence of sex crimes .

waton

There might have been a slightly similar situation Gb/vs Elders once a long time ago, 1970 ies perhaps, but it was abuse of a different kind, the unkindly self abuse.

Wt, via circuit overseers [servants] invited all elders having problems with masturbation to resign. None that we knew did. One elder's response:

I have no problem with that.

The child rape problem is grave, no joking matter. Perhaps more serious in the celibate catholic environment than in wt, taken more seriously too. therefore,

more resignations.

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Most illogical verse in the Bible

by Ireneus in

in exodus 20:3-5 god is depicted as saying: “you should have no other gods” and worshipping them would bring ‘punishment for three to four generation’ and worshipping me would bring blessings for “a thousand generations.”.

the sentiments behind this command is same as the one that was displayed by othello who punished his wife desdemona all because of a handkerchief (given to her by othello on their honeymoon) that was happened to be found with someone else.. if it were the real god, he would have said something like this: “you are my children, and you should not worship me.

how can father accept worship from his children?

waton

God accepting Abel's offering of mutton, at a time when humans were vegetarians. So: the meat was basically garbage, even if wt calls it "choice pieces". By contrast, Cain's hard earned vegetables from a cursed ground were deemed to be of no sacrificial value.

Partakers at the altar writing history to suit their palate?

if it fits the story line or not?

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R.I.P Margot Kidder { Lois Lane} 1948-2018

by smiddy3 in

i was saddened to hear this ,she was only 69 yrs old and i thought she played a great lois lane in the superman movie.. in her life she obviously had issues to deal with and not the best of outcomes sometimes .. r.i.p.

margot kidder , 1948- 2018.

waton

links to OB? please.

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How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

by James Mixon in

for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

"a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

"so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

waton

Well, what language did He use to say that, if language had not been invented. And why was God talking to himself like a weirdo, anyway?

The bible aside, there could be a scientific grain of truth to this. Many modern theories imply an underlying resonance to everything, from string theory to planetary spacings. but

for every lucky hit in the scriptures there is the exposure of ignorance how things work.

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How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

by James Mixon in

for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

"a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

"so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

waton

How do we know? fossils. stuff that has been around a long time, is durable, and looking at the other fossil, light. Yes, light, is a fossil, as old as 13 billion years, it carries the imprint of what it reflected off.

Everything we see , we see from the past, one way or another. fossils.

No, God did not tell them, otherwise they would not have copied mistakes like Gen. 1:1 asserting that the Earth was created in the Big Beginning. Or that a wooden ship could be build big enough to float in water that falls at a rate of meters per hour.

priests wrote to get the 10% phoney fee.

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12 june 2018 what to say

by LostAdam in

hi eveyone, my sis told me something like where will i be after that day.

i couldnt realize at first what she meant, but i found this on net donald-trump-kim-jong-un-meeting-singapore-june-12/.

i found her reaction so pathetic, but i think she is really sorry for me leaving.. so how to do you reply to jw family or generally when news about world peace comes out?.

waton

every time , or "whenever" as Colossians said, a peace deal can turn sour. Think of Chamberlain at Munich, 1938. Singapore 2018?

Perhaps a peace loving Trump will have to be replaced by a president seeking to revenge Viet Nam, as Churchill got a revenge for Tripoli.

Mc cain the real mac Coy?

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Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

by Ireneus in

jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

waton

There is roughly 60 verses in the Bible that imply the earth is flat.

well, it says the earth has 4 corners, twice. Written 3 years after the greek geeks had measured the globe's diameter. so

4 corners, does that mean flat? could be a 3 sided pyramid!

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Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

by Ireneus in

jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

waton

Biblical cosmology...

That is a terrible illustration. It gives the firmament not just compression, but the tensile strength to hang the earth and lower appendages on "Nothing" , and in the process declare the H of Heavens and heavens above as the "nothing" that the earth hangs on. hang on here! Atheist alert!

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Overlapping Generations

by JRK in

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friends

i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

waton

(c) BG.

1980, "you have to be 10 to remember".... they later changed that too!

The elephant in the room is that Jesus said the generation would pass away not sooner, but later, after all these things, including the destruction, have come to pass, into the past. so

1) it could not be the wt other sheep, they are promised never to die. (Funny, sheep are kept to do just that).

2) it could not be the wt anointed, because they are to die sooner rather than later, at the beginning of the GT, (not after the end). so:

it can not be wt, either way. never has been.

Hopefully life will go on, generation after generation, like the above endless surface. so:

ration your genes well, pass them on to the next generation! to be endless! I told a deserving young couple today.

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Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

by Ireneus in

jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

waton

The text could be thought of as not being the result of observation, in a way correct, but that does not apply by extension to the majority of the texts in the bible.

The speaker was comparing his tendency to fall toward the centre of the earth (which he would not know) with the fact that the earth apparently did not. The writer thought that the major attractor is the earth, not the Sun above during daytime. He did not know that the Earth circles the sun, and

by gravity would have a tendency to "fall" up to it. As it is, it is the energy of motion that balances the gravity. A pull out ward. The Earth hangs on energy. Energy is not nothing.

If there were more bible texts like that we would have food for thought. Even Genesis 1:1 is wrong, 1 or 2 out of ~30 000 is not a good record. not inspirational.

PS. The writer had it all wrong. The danger for the Earth is not to fall down, but up toward the sun. It needs not to be hung from a sky hook to keep from falling, but pulled down, outward. Unless you are writing in the dark, at night.