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  How does mankind know what happen before we were created??

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
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  for example, "and god said, let there be light: and there was light.

  "a personal and vocal god said, "let there be light.

  "so god saw the light, and thought it good, but how did the priestly scribe know that he did?

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  waton

  How do we know? fossils. stuff that has been around a long time, is durable, and looking at the other fossil, light. Yes, light, is a fossil, as old as 13 billion years, it carries the imprint of what it reflected off.

  Everything we see , we see from the past, one way or another. fossils.

  No, God did not tell them, otherwise they would not have copied mistakes like Gen. 1:1 asserting that the Earth was created in the Big Beginning. Or that a wooden ship could be build big enough to float in water that falls at a rate of meters per hour.

  priests wrote to get the 10% phoney fee.
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  12 june 2018 what to say

  by LostAdam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi eveyone, my sis told me something like where will i be after that day.

  i couldnt realize at first what she meant, but i found this on net donald-trump-kim-jong-un-meeting-singapore-june-12/.

  i found her reaction so pathetic, but i think she is really sorry for me leaving.. so how to do you reply to jw family or generally when news about world peace comes out?.

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  waton

  every time , or "whenever" as Colossians said, a peace deal can turn sour. Think of Chamberlain at Munich, 1938. Singapore 2018?

  Perhaps a peace loving Trump will have to be replaced by a president seeking to revenge Viet Nam, as Churchill got a revenge for Tripoli.

  Mc cain the real mac Coy?
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  Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

  thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

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  waton

  There is roughly 60 verses in the Bible that imply the earth is flat.

  well, it says the earth has 4 corners, twice. Written 3 years after the greek geeks had measured the globe's diameter. so

  4 corners, does that mean flat? could be a 3 sided pyramid!
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  Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

  thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

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  waton

  Biblical cosmology...

  That is a terrible illustration. It gives the firmament not just compression, but the tensile strength to hang the earth and lower appendages on "Nothing" , and in the process declare the H of Heavens and heavens above as the "nothing" that the earth hangs on. hang on here! Atheist alert!
  
  
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  (c) BG.
  

  1980, "you have to be 10 to remember".... they later changed that too!

  The elephant in the room is that Jesus said the generation would pass away not sooner, but later, after all these things, including the destruction, have come to pass, into the past. so

  1) it could not be the wt other sheep, they are promised never to die. (Funny, sheep are kept to do just that).

  2) it could not be the wt anointed, because they are to die sooner rather than later, at the beginning of the GT, (not after the end). so:

  it can not be wt, either way. never has been.

  Hopefully life will go on, generation after generation, like the above endless surface. so:

  ration your genes well, pass them on to the next generation! to be endless! I told a deserving young couple today.

  
  
  

  
  
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  Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

  thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

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  waton

  The text could be thought of as not being the result of observation, in a way correct, but that does not apply by extension to the majority of the texts in the bible.

  The speaker was comparing his tendency to fall toward the centre of the earth (which he would not know) with the fact that the earth apparently did not. The writer thought that the major attractor is the earth, not the Sun above during daytime. He did not know that the Earth circles the sun, and

  by gravity would have a tendency to "fall" up to it. As it is, it is the energy of motion that balances the gravity. A pull out ward. The Earth hangs on energy. Energy is not nothing.

  If there were more bible texts like that we would have food for thought. Even Genesis 1:1 is wrong, 1 or 2 out of ~30 000 is not a good record. not inspirational.

  PS. The writer had it all wrong. The danger for the Earth is not to fall down, but up toward the sun. It needs not to be hung from a sky hook to keep from falling, but pulled down, outward. Unless you are writing in the dark, at night.
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  My dental theory

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (hula hoops) i suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust.

  similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown.

  (cap).

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  waton

  Teeth should grow back. It's terrible to lose a tooth - aging horror and accidents. No wonder the WT cult is so rich off all those promises.

  30 years ago, I mentioned to my dentist, who also was my client, in jest,

  that with everlasting life promised, we probably would regrow teeth just like sharks.

  he was not pleased.
  
  
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  I also think this overlapping generation idea was something that allows them to keep appointing younger and younger people to the Governing Body.

  Shall we consider the ages involved of these overlapping groups?

  D. Splane used the example of F. Franz, who died in 1992, 78 years after 1914. A similarly aged anointed, ( or older as D.S mentioned in the video), would live into the 2070s.

  Wt bases the overlapping generation idea on Ex. 1:6, mentioning "Joseph,---- and that whole generation", and he himself lived to 110 years old; but even that is not enough for wt, they have to add his overlapping generation to it. So wt has a group overlapping a 110 year old as the only scriptural bases for their current light. Not making light of this, but

  wt has come up with a 200 year period of invisible 1914-19 rulers waiting for the over lappers to die and join them.

  Younger people are not going to fix that. A fix that is unfixable.

  wt generated one generous generation. ~ 200 years, scripturally.
  
  
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  they waited until the very last member died

  well that what wt has reserved , as a way out. way out.

  Jesus said the generation would not pass away, die. so: it is not only overlapping, it will go on and on and on. after all, it has --for almost 2000 years, why stop now.

  wt is playing them all for suckers. Wt teaches that the anointed will pass away to heaven at the beginning, not long* after the end. so: they actually have a disclaimer already build in. long Pinocchio nose.

  *wt formerly taught that the generation would never die, now, that is what I called long.
  RibbonFinal.

  sorry image does not post, but it is a Moebius strip with a generation logo

  PS. just to be clear. Jesus said the generation would pass away, just not before the destruction, the end.

  The Millions now living was a lie too, still is.

  Everything is meant to die. it is good for the development.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  The time when jws worried, cared about doctrine, beliefs are over.