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  Job 26:7 “Earth is hanged upon nothing”—proof of inspiration?

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jws has been saying bible is authored by god because job 26:7 says: “earth is being hanged upon nothing.” and this verse in combination with isaiah 40:22 which says “god resides above the circle of earth” implies that earth is spherical and remains unsupported from above or from beneath.

  thus, bible contains the knowledge which science confirmed later.. however, recent understanding of science is that the whole visible part of the universe is only 4%, and the visible exists because of the invisible 96%-- “dark matter 26%” and “dark energy 70%”--which is a fifth and previously unknown type of fundamental force called quintessence, which fills the universe like a fluid serving as a support to the visible universe.

  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/dark-matter/.

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  waton

  The text could be thought of as not being the result of observation, in a way correct, but that does not apply by extension to the majority of the texts in the bible.

  The speaker was comparing his tendency to fall toward the centre of the earth (which he would not know) with the fact that the earth apparently did not. The writer thought that the major attractor is the earth, not the Sun above during daytime. He did not know that the Earth circles the sun, and

  by gravity would have a tendency to "fall" up to it. As it is, it is the energy of motion that balances the gravity. A pull out ward. The Earth hangs on energy. Energy is not nothing.

  If there were more bible texts like that we would have food for thought. Even Genesis 1:1 is wrong, 1 or 2 out of ~30 000 is not a good record. not inspirational.

  PS. The writer had it all wrong. The danger for the Earth is not to fall down, but up toward the sun. It needs not to be hung from a sky hook to keep from falling, but pulled down, outward. Unless you are writing in the dark, at night.
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  My dental theory

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (hula hoops) i suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust.

  similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown.

  (cap).

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  waton

  Teeth should grow back. It's terrible to lose a tooth - aging horror and accidents. No wonder the WT cult is so rich off all those promises.

  30 years ago, I mentioned to my dentist, who also was my client, in jest,

  that with everlasting life promised, we probably would regrow teeth just like sharks.

  he was not pleased.
  
  
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  I also think this overlapping generation idea was something that allows them to keep appointing younger and younger people to the Governing Body.

  Shall we consider the ages involved of these overlapping groups?

  D. Splane used the example of F. Franz, who died in 1992, 78 years after 1914. A similarly aged anointed, ( or older as D.S mentioned in the video), would live into the 2070s.

  Wt bases the overlapping generation idea on Ex. 1:6, mentioning "Joseph,---- and that whole generation", and he himself lived to 110 years old; but even that is not enough for wt, they have to add his overlapping generation to it. So wt has a group overlapping a 110 year old as the only scriptural bases for their current light. Not making light of this, but

  wt has come up with a 200 year period of invisible 1914-19 rulers waiting for the over lappers to die and join them.

  Younger people are not going to fix that. A fix that is unfixable.

  wt generated one generous generation. ~ 200 years, scripturally.
  
  
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  they waited until the very last member died

  well that what wt has reserved , as a way out. way out.

  Jesus said the generation would not pass away, die. so: it is not only overlapping, it will go on and on and on. after all, it has --for almost 2000 years, why stop now.

  wt is playing them all for suckers. Wt teaches that the anointed will pass away to heaven at the beginning, not long* after the end. so: they actually have a disclaimer already build in. long Pinocchio nose.

  *wt formerly taught that the generation would never die, now, that is what I called long.
  RibbonFinal.

  sorry image does not post, but it is a Moebius strip with a generation logo

  PS. just to be clear. Jesus said the generation would pass away, just not before the destruction, the end.

  The Millions now living was a lie too, still is.

  Everything is meant to die. it is good for the development.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  The time when jws worried, cared about doctrine, beliefs are over.
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  My dental theory

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (hula hoops) i suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust.

  similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown.

  (cap).

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  waton

  Knew a "sister" from a healthy teeth, big smile country that opened beer bottles with her teeth. regularly. for all comers.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  This came out at an assembly right? I remember a friend telling me about it, and that his COBE brother said to him after the talk, "we were duped."

  I think jws want their worldview to be correct so much that they, like the fabricators of that this desperate " let us rescue 1914" ploy, - want to make, will it to come true. The calculation of the long lives involved will take the concept into the failed prophecy centennial though. Die hards indeed.
  
  
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  Who are the 144,000?

  by Canadian Sunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if i am understanding correctly only 144,000 will go to heaven, to be with jesus and help rule?

  these 144,000 are witnesses only.

  there is over a million jw world wide, what happens to the rest of the faithful followers.

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  waton

  A really mixed up bible story, out of which the wt has drawn wrong conclusions because

  to rule with Christ, go where he goes, you have to be

  1) a male virgin: Rev 14, (perhaps Fredrick Franz would qualify, but also

  2) be killed for Christ's sake by the axe, Rev 20. which counts him out, FF pushing Jesus into the background in favour of J no. 1, and dying in a Brooklyn bed.

  Martyrs have been overlapping since Stephen. wt has nothing to do with it.
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  My dental theory

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (hula hoops) i suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust.

  similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown.

  (cap).

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  waton

  switched to a different kind of date and found out the hard way. painfully loosened a front lower, hope it will heal back in, so far so good. My dental theory? do not switch dates, They may have pits.
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  76 Year Old JW Woman Attacked by Pit Bull While Out in Service ... "Lost a large amount of blood"

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  4 people were hurt by the dog ... 2 were jws.

  the older woman was severely hurt.

  i hope the old woman survives.

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  waton

  I know of only one case in San Fransisco where dog owners were convicted in the correct manner of the damage they caused.

  Victim protection first. Dog owners should be criminally responsible for fright, injury and death their pets cause. Then civil damages. Even if the particular animal never showed aggressive behaviour, put the owner on trial, even if it was their baby that died.

  JWs going in the service are already victims, they do not deserve to face double jeopardy.