Posts by waton

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countdown to darkness

by waton in

if you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. to be precise, ~1969 days away.

the countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year.

ha ha.

waton

That's what someone does when they think they are revealing hidden secrets from the bible through their own predictions

basically that what wt did since the 1870 ies. The eclipses though, see a crowd of people that trust science, have not been disappointed, except clouds coming in the way.

looking at the days left until the next one, is great to look at what new wt light really was. 1966 dte today.

Yes, the close match of the Moon and Sun apparent sizes could be an art, decoration, a non-biblical message from the creator. No other bodies in the solar system have that surface view apparent ratio.

7 Salems? pieces of peace? well, during the last eclipse, Trump was president and now he is a candidate for the Nobel peace price.

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countdown to darkness

by waton in

if you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. to be precise, ~1969 days away.

the countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year.

ha ha.

waton

Bible sacred just because it was thought sacred in the past by their predecessors.

so true, I should have called the topic about the eclipse:

Countdown THROUGH darkness

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countdown to darkness

by waton in

if you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. to be precise, ~1969 days away.

the countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year.

ha ha.

waton

It was a truly emotional event, I watched with a 'great crowd' of people gathered

Highly recommended. If you did not know better, you would have thought to be back in bible story times when miracles like talking snakes happened.

Cant wait to pass dte* 1942, 1925 (the princes appearing) 1918 (millions never dying talk), 1914 the world ending rapture.

*dte days to eclipse.

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countdown to darkness

by waton in

if you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. to be precise, ~1969 days away.

the countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year.

ha ha.

waton

If you want to experience the impact of an historic event, go and visit the next stark darkening, the eclipse in 2024. To be precise, ~1969 days away. The countdown also will take you, like an anti-daily text, through wt history as a retro prophecy a day for a year. ha ha.

1968-9, the year wt printed that it would be appropriate that the Millennium should start in 1975.

The jays did not think so. but you can count on it, the countdown ~ 1969 days to go. It will not be the end of the world, but look like it. True prophets exist, in science. You can count on it.

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Death

by Charles Gillette in

jw
friends

i often wonder about death.

no one has any idea, do they?

people have speculated since the beginning of time but each original concept of the hereafter as been absurd as the one before.

waton

I am at least 17 years older, the doctor told me I have max 30 years to go, because a few huladies (not men) have lived to be over 120. I like talking to old people like me, and I do not see anxiety, but more serenity there than among the young. really. Glad that pain has been conquered (thanks medics all). Even in situations where I could have died, I do not remember suffering about the dying part.

Death I see as a step of life: tired after a mission accomplished. Our part: to advance life, the contribution to bettered genes, (or not) added knowledge. Being a parent, having reaped those rewards.

Death, a fitting conclusion to that period of consciousness we had. Imagine if we did not have the good sense to accept that! this planet clogged with 180 billion hanger -oners.

Could a creator that made the universe do something to extend, or recreate [y]our existence somewhere else? well, he has demonstrated a successful first run. So, why should he?

Life is great, one's death should be too. Urging the new life bearers into the future.

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Bethelite statistics

by john.prestor in

hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

waton

I do remember that back in the day......... late 1950's early 1960's Bethelites were paid a $14 a month stipend for a 5 and 1/2 day week. That worked out to 35 cents per hour.

That was generous of wt.

During that time special pioneers were paid $ 45.- a month for 150 hours of "service" aka work*. worked out to 30 cents Canadian, out of that you had to pay all, food, shelter, transportation. The late figures now are skewed, because social contribution issues are starting to come into play in many jurisdictions.* not counting meeting preparation, normal JW grind.

wt remember, 30 cents an hour, to people in their prime earning age, never to come back, while a billion $ real estate empire was being assembled.

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BIG,Dead Place

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

big, dead place is a name a sharp-witted aussie gave to the antarctic base at mcmurdo sound, managed by uncomprehending american bureaucrats located in faraway nebraska.. you can read the origins of the name on the australian abc's web-site today:.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-30/big-dead-place-the-wikileaks-of-antarctica/9666244.

but as i read that story, i thought what a wonderfully descriptive name for nathan knorr's vision of the 'new world society' - the name of jw.com's predeccessor, and the name by which i knew the organisation of the christian witlesses of yhwh when i first got conned into thinking that i had found not only the truth, but the solution to the starving billions of this world and all the other shit that worries humankind.. but i will spare your the re-run of my wasted life in later versions of big, dead place.

waton

mixing metaphors here. but did not Wt doctrine originally incorporate the pyramids, the big places for the dead mentioned in the bible, and is the whole thing not a kind of pyramid scheme, taking in life and capital from members, promising a payout, when the whole thing has collapsed?

And is the place not mentally dead, void of refreshing discussion?

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Wt video this week big problem.

by poopie in

jw
friends

problem with this week's video on counsel.

why did they emphasize the counsel and not the fact that those who were watching movie should have followed christ counsel at mathew 5 go to your brother instead they ratted on the guy to an elder and let him do dirty work.wow just totally ignore jesus words..

waton

'friends', they are that talk to elders after they have spent a social evening at your house.

wt mind control, they want to promote this to be normal behaviour of the sheep to be shorn.

first watch, then discuss (mostly sisters) to grind the message home. your not even save at home. horrible.

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Noah`s day Flood ? ( again) Waters Covering Active Volcanoes ?

by smiddy3 in

i know their have been many posts dedicated to this subject already and i apologize if this aspect has been handled before.. apart from the many other absurdities relating to the flood of noah`s day being literal as jehovah`s witnesses believe and already thrashed out here by the many posts previous.. i was wondering if this aspect has been considered that the waters would have had to cover over active volcanoes with what result ?.

their are a number of" active and resting" volcanoes at any one time around the earth and i`m just wondering if anyone more knowledgeable than me about the subject would like to weigh in and give their 2 cents worth in what effect a global flood covering volcanoes would have ?.

i am aware their are fissures in the deep oceans where volcanic activity occurs ,but is this the same ?.

waton

Well of course the volcanoes would have kept ongoing bubbling up its molten lava while being covered over with water.

yea 9000 meters of it 900 more atmospheric pressure added.

holding back the lave or providing a Heimlich* procedure?

*secret or symbolic.

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Noah`s day Flood ? ( again) Waters Covering Active Volcanoes ?

by smiddy3 in

i know their have been many posts dedicated to this subject already and i apologize if this aspect has been handled before.. apart from the many other absurdities relating to the flood of noah`s day being literal as jehovah`s witnesses believe and already thrashed out here by the many posts previous.. i was wondering if this aspect has been considered that the waters would have had to cover over active volcanoes with what result ?.

their are a number of" active and resting" volcanoes at any one time around the earth and i`m just wondering if anyone more knowledgeable than me about the subject would like to weigh in and give their 2 cents worth in what effect a global flood covering volcanoes would have ?.

i am aware their are fissures in the deep oceans where volcanic activity occurs ,but is this the same ?.

waton

Volcanoes often expel a lot of hot gases, Old faithful would have created steam bubbles 2500 BC.*

bubbles make hot gases visible in water,

The flood story is a lot of hot air, volcanoes makes that more evident. so:

look at the water, below it volcanoe,

above, a floating canoe, aka ark, made from wood, cedar perhaps, only bigger. something fishy about that story