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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
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`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
waton

jp: I have "hammered" away on this particular issue with more effort and effect than you'll ever know!.
Great!...can you share some? with this thread I tried to roll back time, show that in 1939*** Franz was 36 years away from 1975, 53 years away from his death, as a under lapper, a latter day Franz II would take us into 2070 to 2075 again. so:
"If I had a hammer Id hammer in the morning--evening." next blow please.
If witnesses would be confronted with this issue in the H2H, "work" ...They would dread "not giving up" even more.
*** 1939 corresponds to 2017 in the overlapping franzes
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
waton

SBF, jp1692, The generation question is the one uniquely problematic for the WTBTS. and for that reason it deserves to be hammered.
I have done more than 86 laps around the sun, passed the baton to the next generation and the next. overlapping twice already. so, sorry, it is not the last time you will see generation threads generated. , if it annoying, hopefully more so for wt writers, lurkers.
rub it in.
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
waton

Discussing current wt doctrinal dilemmas is the service we wish we had rendered to us when we were young.
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Russia Moves to Declare the Bible “Extremist”
by NikL in
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2. friends
sorry if this has been mentioned already.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/russia/hearing-bible-extremist-20170727/.

kind of misleading headline.

it's the nwt version they want to label as extremist not the bible itself.. for those that don't want to go to that obnoxious website, here is the text.... russia moves to declare the bible “extremist”.
waton

Russia labels it extremist, Cosco displays it under fiction.
extremely fictitious!, fictitious extremism !
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
waton

If your goal was to come up with a topic more convoluted and undecipherable than "overlapping generations", then congratulations, you have succeeded.
sir82, There are some that are interested to what the formula that wt published really works out to.II is called the applied science method. . If you cant call the numbers you do not understand it. JWs would be appalled to learn that David Splane, by using the "F" *word, moved 2075 into the realm of possibilities. * F for Franz.
More convoluted for some is the fact, and explanation, that the anointed generation formula contradicts Jesus definition, timeline of that group or the groups of people.
For good reasons our assigned symbols differ only in shade.
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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention
by UnshackleTheChains in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.
waton

So they're saying "the overlapping generation of the first generation will not pass away until all these things occur" try explaining that out in the ministry
nowwhat? it is worse: the last anointed generation will pass away until, or before all these things occur. it is an indefensible contradiction of Jesus.
Jws are not aware of that, do not understand it, can not defend it, do not need to, because nobody cares.
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Faithful and discreet “slave” is very apt name!
by venus in
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2. beliefs
i found it difficult to digest the word (“slave”) jesus supposedly used to refer to his appointees on earth to dispense spiritual food on earth.

(mathew 24:45) why not a better word, something positive in view of the fact that jesus came to free us?

freedom is the absence of physical and mental boundaries or restrictions.
waton

Jesus: "whoever wants to be first among you, must become your slave (not even "god's" appointed slave). That is a long way to governing body, buddy.
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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention
by UnshackleTheChains in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.
waton

Why cant they see this is total bullshit?
jws are groupies. the more groups the better.
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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama
by purrpurr in
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2. beliefs
the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.
waton

calling people by their first name is a local thing, called "Duzen" in german, wt instructions were way back April 1996 km, question box, to have the terms Brother x , Sister y to be used at the hall, meetings, functions. has that been rescinded?
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
waton

heart attack. They are on thin ice if the basis of their theology is him living into his 90s.
NY44M: Their theology demands constant urgency, a 911 call for Sanderson would be good news for wt.*** The anointed generation is ending! but it is the lean types like Fanatical Franz hidden in the woodworks worldwide that mean it really is set up to go past 2075.
WT's goal is not to have another 075 debacle.
*** and for "Jesus". sanderson: I am coming !