Posts by waton

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They lied about methuselah tree at convention

by hoser in

jw
friends

there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

waton

"...they wouldn't have survived a supposed worldwide flood, and months of soaking.

janusfulcrum, not to forget though, that those woods were pressure treated, with ~ 6000 meters of water above them, to submerge Mt. Everest.

The woods before the flood were special, evidently. They must have had extraordinary tensile strength, close to Aluminium, self adhesive to stick together and easy to work with like balsa. These are thorny questions, the methuselah age, dates, dating clearly not a biblical, or wt forte.

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Total - 100%- Eclipse - I am in the path! SO exciting!

by nonjwspouse in

acquaintances wanting to make the trek, i know a perfect spot by a lake for a private community viewing.

(just sayin' birdie) happy goat, sail away, and others.

barbara anderson, aren't you in the path?

waton

I am afraid, all of Boston. NY, DC, Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, San Fransisco, San Diego LA, Seattle The Vancouvers, will converge to the center line, and we all are going to be eclipsed. gridlocked, Monday and Tuesday off.

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

waton

.....merely a "bad angel" should be so feared by God's angelic forces -

Did not a "demon prince" of one of the mid eastern empires hold up Michael, Theocracy's No. 2, for a while.?

"WT pantheon" is right!

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

waton

The slave's dogma always held that the almighty's mightiness was never in question. So, why did satan prevail against even the good angelic hosts?

Evidently they suffered the fate comparable of Jerusalem of old, threatened devastation for failing to give spiritual direction to its earthly counterpart the WTB&TS inc. Prior to the time in the wilderness, truly amazing stories were allowed to be published ...1914, : the end of the world, the going to heaven of all anointed, Millions now living will never die, no wonder God gave free reign to the competitors.

from the talking snake to the overlapping generation groups, it does not bode well for the lady with the now 103 year old invisible baby,

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I'm writing a letter to my country's branch

by Ray Frankz in

hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.

after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.

i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.

waton

I would send it only for your personal satisfaction. wt is not interested in details or you. the least that can happen is a reply saying " -- mind your own business....." include a token "contribution" of money to be sure they write back ha ha.

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

waton

wt workers might argue that The Almighty, in order to level the playing field in the universal sovereignty issue, has at time granted extraordinary powers to its opponents.

examples: Job's trials, creating of noxious life forms: guinea worms, mosquitoes etc.

That seeming advantage will end at the onset of the great tribulation, not later than 2075, when the then current crop of anointed, including the GB, F&DS, will have been called to heaven and given immortality, becoming invincible heavenly warriors , ending any future defeats, like depicted in the bunker scenes, for the faithful, in heaven or earth.

Snakes were left speechless at the flood, Armageddon,-- with the anointed fighting, will not be such a dud.

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The old "Book Study Group"

by The Fall Guy in

in the june 2004 kingdom ministry, the self-appointed "faithful slave" published this spiritual exhortation as a q&a item - "the congregation book study—why we need it.

three years later, in 2007 - in the august kingdom ministry - the same "slave" issued this reminder - "how the congregation book study arrangement helps us.

but surprise, surprise - within a few short months the "slave" decided that jehovah had had a change of heart, and now decided that the book study in homes - with all of its alleged benefits - was superfluous: .

waton

last "study center" was very creative. Book study was on saturday mornings. followed by a lavish coffee and refreshments, (high quality) and cleanup. and then? , guess: Field service ha ha.

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Dunkirk.

by zeb in

i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

(not for kids).

waton

I remember the german pro english, sentiment in the 1930s, They even had their royal family link, Edward, picked, When England rebuffed them, declared war on them and not the poland invading Russians too, that anglo phil feeling soured, and anti english propaganda films about the Boer war etc appeared, prepared for the worst to come. going to see it, even if I really hate war. Living through the real thing was already once too much.

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The old "Book Study Group"

by The Fall Guy in

in the june 2004 kingdom ministry, the self-appointed "faithful slave" published this spiritual exhortation as a q&a item - "the congregation book study—why we need it.

three years later, in 2007 - in the august kingdom ministry - the same "slave" issued this reminder - "how the congregation book study arrangement helps us.

but surprise, surprise - within a few short months the "slave" decided that jehovah had had a change of heart, and now decided that the book study in homes - with all of its alleged benefits - was superfluous: .

waton

there always was one of these "groups" meeting at the hall for the disfellowshipped. odd person out. the change has considerably cut down on original comments, if for no other reasons than time restraints. same blabbers out of the whole circus monopolizing. legal reasons? keeps medical cost high too.

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I went Elder Hunting yesterday!

by Tight Pants Twinkle Toes in

win my first post i introduced you to tweedle dee and tweedle dum, ( surprise elders visit ).

well last sunday night i got phone call from t- dum, he informed me that t-dee was listening in, no doubt practicing his short hand.

t-dum went on to say how he was concerned that we were making the biggest mistake of our lives, yada yada.

waton

threatening to sue them might just be an idle threat, but if they have real wealth, they do not want hat in jeopardy in any way, it is not like garnishing wages at lowes.

There might come another elder hunting season though, someday, in an anarchy like Syria, Iraq, the liberation of France, or the invasion of the USSR, nobody is going to protect the abusers.

ps: like cofty, or Simon said in another thread, "including killing all our constabulary, for they know.."