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  Why does Jehovah choose certain people to rule with him in heaven?

  by iWant2Learn in

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  in other words, what good works have the 144000 done to be secured a place in heaven?

  i am told they have already been chosen.

  does that mean that jehovah also knows our future?

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  waton

  Perry, a very good exhaustive summary, but it all hinges on the mythology, organisational spin the previous two posters (NN7 F) mentioned.
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

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  Most Jehovah's Witnesses believe Armageddon is around the proverbial corner,

  djeggnog: If Armageddon would be just around the corner, the GT would be in full progress (according to wt current timeline, David Splaine et al) and therefore,

  There would be no genuine anointed left on Earth, to take the emblems, because the Rapture having already taken place, the immortal anointed would be already in battle gear lined up with the heavenly armies to smite the evildoers like us on JWN.

  relax, the wait can last to 2075,
  
  
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

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  Unless they were truly anointed, just touching the emblems could cause instant death.

  JW_R: that what Eve of Eden thought about the forbidden fruit, and said so, to the talking, and listening snake. The anointing is snake oil, a touchy subject for some.
  
  
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  22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

  by fulltimestudent in

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  the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

  and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

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  These are living glaciers. there was a B 29. rare in Europe, (US Air force flew B17 and Liberators), and it was not encased in ice, it was readied, but tragically it burned , during take off, because of fire in a faulty auxiliary generator.

  A warm water event the heights of Everest would have lifted the ice off it's base.

  Jesus endorsing the flood does not add credence to it, but sinks his credibility, that is the core truth.

  PS: come to think of it, that B29 could be from the 1948, not 1944 period.
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  Proper understanding of the Mediator & New Covenant

  by Crazyguy in

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  mediator and the new covenant.

  the society has taught that only the 144,000 are to par-take of the emblems and jesus only mediates and died for them.

  "he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

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  A "proper" understanding, based on whose hallucination?

  NN: the talking snake story was possibly in part influenced by psychic substance use. To disprove any erroneus conclusion, that clash with the details of the plot, you do not need more pot, but pitting one version against the other, eliminating errors in a version, one by one, that is why crime stories are fun.
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  What will happen if someone partake the wine and bread at memorial? Should we all do that?

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  waton

  If you partake,on a personal level, it would be agreeing with wt's interpretation of the talking snake story***, many partake at home, because they have other beliefs. If you think it is just a delayed april-fool day's prank? that would be your choice.

  PS:*** affirming that you believe in the talking snake story, and the followup- eve, adam- Jesus- paradise should be enough to question your sane analytical faculties,
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  Proper understanding of the Mediator & New Covenant

  by Crazyguy in

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  mediator and the new covenant.

  the society has taught that only the 144,000 are to par-take of the emblems and jesus only mediates and died for them.

  "he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

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  The term "New" covenant directs you back to the "old", law, mosaic covenant for contrast and understanding. (rejecting the idea of types and antitypes notwithstanding).

  Was not the majority of the worshipping nation in the Law covenant? all of them bound by it? why should it be different today?

  relevant text in today's wt study: par 11, -- Jesus in Mark 3:35 : "Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother sister mother" not in the future, since it was spoken. wt quoting bible, but not listening. obfuscation.
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  If you could see the future would you use it?

  by purrpurr in

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  if you had the ability to know what the future held would you use this ability?.

  jws say that jehovah can see the future but he just choses not to.

  which never made sense to me, as if he did use that ability then a lot of the stuff that went wrong could have been avoided.. it never made sense.

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  I think even a possible creator can not see all the future, although, if he is eternal, he already is there, always has been there, permanently (by himself).

  The future of us, as we travel through time, is empty, there is nothing to see. We can predict certain events that will happen in the future, such as : 21/07/2017 9am. , and act accordingly, --but changing it? no, use it?, yes.
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  World's oldest person Emma Morano dies at 117

  by jp1692 in

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  the world's oldest person has died in italy at the age of 117, reports say.. emma morano was born on 29 november 1899 in the piedmont region of italy.

  she was officially the last person born in the 1800s still living.. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39610937.

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  the second-oldest gets a promotion.

  NN; and then, we should use these super centenarians as breeding stock to boost the life expectancy of the human race, because the house to house method of the wt has yielded no results so far.
  
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  Proper understanding of the Mediator & New Covenant

  by Crazyguy in

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  mediator and the new covenant.

  the society has taught that only the 144,000 are to par-take of the emblems and jesus only mediates and died for them.

  "he is the mediator between his heavenly father, jehovah god, and the nation of spiritual israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

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  A beautiful mild flowery, day, evening among the palms here,

  The canard of wt is that the spiritual israel is 144 ooo. that is like saying the nation of Israel in the Law covenant was composed of the tribes of Levi and Judah. the priests and the kings. Read Rev 7, the original 144 chapter, read it please again, again if you have too: The 144 k come OUT OF the twelve tribes, they are not the only Israel. They are at best 2/12 fraction. at best, or worst.

  New covenant is for forgiveness of sins, all embracing, kingdom covenant: to come. ( if there really was a talking snake.