Posts by doubtfull1799

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Jehovah's Witnesses act like 'Flirts' with people!

by stuckinarut2 in

we were just musing that jws act in a "flirtatious" manner with people in the community.. they show such "sincere" interest in people when they call.

they seem like such kind, caring and thoughtful people - really interested in their lives and welfare.. people are often quite impressed with the jws manner, and their well dressed presentation.

people (especially vulnerable ones who are going through difficult pressures in life), are drawn in and made to feel special by the witnesses as they call back.. return visits take place.

Witnessing to two JW elders

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

i was approached by two jehovah’s witness elders who handed me a pamphlet advertising the jw .org website.

each man carried a bible and an apple ipad.

they told me that they enjoyed visiting with people about the bible, and asked if i was a bible reader.

An early Hellenistic fable in the bible

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

jps (1917)... the trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: reign thou over us.

and the trees said unto the vine: come thou, and reign over us.

then said all the trees unto the bramble: come thou, and reign over us.

doubtfull1799

Interesting... My knowledge is a bit lacking in this area. Thanks for sharing, will look into this further. Are there any other examples you know of?

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William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

by doubtfull1799 in

so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

by doubtfull1799 in

so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

I'm so mad I'm going to ring head office and ask to speak to him in the spirit of Mat 5:23,24 & Matt 18:15 - wonder if they'll put me through? Somehow I don't like my chances of being able to apply those verses.... theoretically it should not be a problem as "all pigs are equal" (as Orwell would say) in this organisation, yet somehow i think it will be a case of "some pigs are more equal than others" and don't have to take phone calls, or be held accountable for what they say if they don't want to.

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William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

by doubtfull1799 in

so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

doubtfull1799

I they really cared about the people who are struggling to accept their assertions that we are living in the last days, wouldn't it have been kind and loving to patiently and thoroughly outline some good, solid, convincing statistical evidence and research showing how wars, earthquakes, famines ect have been significantly increasing in the 20th century and that 2 Tim 2:1-5 is more than a horoscope.

With regard to 2 Tim 3:1-5 the question that is always put to the HH is: "can you see those qualities in people today?" But the more important question that is NEVER asked is this: "has their ever been a period of time in history when people didn't behave like that?" If not, then what possible use is this description as a "sign" to identify a particular time period? Why didn't Paul predict the things William actually mentioned like nuclear bombs, or one billion abortions?

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William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

by doubtfull1799 in

so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

doubtfull1799

So he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection"). And uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution). Then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!

Instead of addressing the most glaringly obvious reason people don't believe we're living in the last days, i.e, the complete lack of any solid evidence, he goes on to give his own reasons:

1. They are blinded by Satan. (If that is so is it really their fault? Why should they be deserving of destruction? If they've been misled by a more powerful being that does not make them wicked... it puts responsibility on God, if he truly wishes for all to be saved, to "unblind" them).

2. They are victims of "gradualism." Pulling out that old frog illustration like its the first time anyone's heard of it. Implying that people have not made a proper investigation of the facts or history, when the opposite is more likely to be the case. Most people have come to the conclusion that we are not living in the last days because they have made a more thorough investigation of the historical evidence instead of just accepting Watchtower assertions or misleading twisting of statistics.

3. They are haughty, depraved, wicked. His final brilliant argument is to imply that if people have allowed themselves to fall prey to his first two points they must be morally corrupt - the are deserving of destruction and good riddance to them! Or "so be it" in his words.

So in summary, what I got from the video was this: if people are too blind or stupid to see that we are living in the last days, and they have allowed Satan to blind them to the (non-existent) evidence then Psa 92:7 applies to them: They are wicked ones sprouting like weeds and their only reason for existence or worth as humans is to be annihilated.

Nice demonising and hate speech that towards those who don't accept your opinions. The JW leadership are not extremists at all, such tolerant, peace-loving people!

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Russian award story in the St. Lucia Times. Almost 80 comments at the end! Pretty heated stuff.

by Sugar Shane in

some of the pro-jws are comparing the award reception to that of shadrach, messach, and abendego.

therefore excusing it as perfectly acceptable in the eyes of god.

that just seems a bit of a stretch to me, given that the jws talk about political neutrality, ect.

doubtfull1799

I hear you Smiddy... the level indoctrinated people will go to to justify something is unbelievable. And it used to be us!

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The bizarreness of Genesis 6:2

by doubtfull1799 in

"the sons of the true god began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.

so they began taking as wives all whom they chose.".

it may be feasible to some to accept the bible's assertion that the first humans were tempted to pursue independence from god, especially since they were created in his image and he is independent from any authority.

doubtfull1799

"The sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose."

It may be feasible to some to accept the Bible's assertion that the first humans were tempted to pursue independence from God, especially since they were created in His image and He is independent from any authority.

However it is far more difficult to understand how so-called perfect and superior beings could have been tempted to do something that would have been totally unnatural to them.

1. Are not angels, being spirit beings, genderless? Why were they only attracted to the females then? Why did not half the angels materialise as women and take men? Of course if you take it as patriarchal mythology that makes perfect sense.

2. Are not angels, being spiritual beings, sexless? What does it actually mean to "materialise?" Does it mean to become visible in the physical realm? Have the appearance of physicality? Why were the angels attracted sexually to humans when they were higher life forms? Does that not indicate some sort of fault in the way they were created? That would be like a human being sexually attracted to a so-called lower or less intelligent life form like a dog or cat. Furthermore how did they actually copulate? Does materialising mean actually morphing into a fully functional human body with reproductive system and gene pool etc?

3. If this was so disgusting and amoral that the human offspring were not allowed to live out their natural lives but were condemned to death in the flood, why were the angels involved not also punished by immediate destruction? Why were they allowed to live on for centuries to wreak more havoc on the human race and promote their perverted ideas etc...

4. If they were sent to some "abyss" (tartarus) where is this abyss? Heaven or earth or somewhere in between? Was it created at the same time as the rest of the universe? If it pre-existed earth God must have known he would have need of it

The more you think about this story the less it makes sense unless you accept it is nothing more than a parallel to other ancient Mesopotamian/Egyptian/Greek mythology, not an explanation for those mythologies.

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Today's Text: Proof that God does not abide by His own principles...

by doubtfull1799 in

"do not withhold good from those to whom you should give it if it is within your power.

- prov 3:27".

by the common christian definition of god, everything is within his power.

doubtfull1799

Indeed @stuckinarut2. Unlike Elders, who would have a mandatory reassessment of their qualificatons if even one of their children rebelled, God is not accountable or subject to scrutiny.