I have always found the 607 debate kind of a moot point.
I always thought after reading Daniel 4 and realizing the whole formula is nothing ctr taught prior to 1914, you could see the obvious scripture twisting nonsense.
hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
I have always found the 607 debate kind of a moot point.
I always thought after reading Daniel 4 and realizing the whole formula is nothing ctr taught prior to 1914, you could see the obvious scripture twisting nonsense.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
I think you should learn the difference between the extermination camps and concentration camps. Watchtards were nothing but free Labour and had a better survival rate was much than getting sent to the front line, especially the Soviet front which was hell on earth.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
I have come to the conclusion that baby-sitting the ss children while they were putting babies in ovens isn't quite as noble as the watchtards like to think it is.
I am so sick of hearing about the brave witnesses if WW2. Collaborating cowards.
so i've been a lurked on this site for about 15 years, thank goodness for dial up internet.... anyway my fade has been working off and on for that long but my whole family is still in including my kid.
at this point i have started dating a worldly person.
he is wiling to put onthe facade of being a witness so i don't have to lose my family.
How old are you?
There is a point where it is really none of their business. So what, you get marked. All it means is you can't hang with a bunch of phonies.
One meeting a month. Come late, leave early.
one thing that surprised me shortly after joining this site was the number of individuals who, after experiencing the deception of being a jw and the hypocrisy of the “truth”, switched to being catholic or “born-again” evangelists.
it seemed to me like jumping from the hot pan into the fire.. i don’t want to piss anyone off for his or her choices.
i feel everyone is free to believe what they may.
I sometimes feel like Charlie Brown listening to his teacher listening to this constant variation of the same idea.
japan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!
then something happened.
publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.
To be fair Japan actually has a shrinking population. Everything is in decline.
maybe it was my mood, but last night the meeting seemed really over the top cultish.. mainly the latter portion that just focused on presentation videos which always seem creepy to me anyway.. then the local needs was pre-empted by a video all about ldc which seemed completely pointless.
(on a side note my wife knew a couple of different people in it).
the congregation "bible" study which dealt with the ever changing cover of the watchtower magazine.
It's deliberately mocking the rank and file with a friendly reminder the new testament isn't written for them.
watchtower magazine feb. 2017 study ed.
page 25 paragraph 8. studied at all kingdom halls worldwide in the last week of april 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2017/who-is-leading-gods-people-today/.
8 in the late 19th century, charles taze russell … zion’s watch tower tract society … with brother russell as president.
Sorry
New to all of this but didn't CTR teach the world would end in 1914?
didn't see this anywhere else.. sorry if this was posted before.. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/787824/cannabis-found-growing-church-salem-chapel-wales-weed-police.
Although your link is wrong and hilarious I did Google the story and it was correct.
Ambulance chasers. Sueing the hospital because they didn't have alternative treatments available.
Slimey
what is happening in kazakhstan?
that country that occupies a space between russia and china?.
kazakhstan is a landlocked country in central asia that shares borders with russia, china, kyrgyzstan, uzbekistan, and turkmenistan, and also adjoins a large part of the caspian sea.. kazakhstan is 70% muslim.
Christians have always operated under restrictions in some of the shady ex communist, communist and Muslim parts of the world.
The sad part is other churches have figured out how not only survive but thrive. Doing ex reach work, feeding Programs, house churches etc.
I have little sympathy for people who feel the need to be annoying telemarketers with a very pompous and annoying message.