Posts by Steel

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So, any comments from the Memorial?

by NewYork44M in

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perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

it happened last night, right?.

in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

Steel

Our speaker gave some nutty explaination about how the term born again was misunderstood. I found it quite offensive.

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Jehovah's witness doctrine on "only 144,000 are born again" easily debunked!

by yogosans14 in

these verses in particular were an eye opener for me.

of course in the jws i thought only 144,000 are truly born again and are part of the new covenant but the bible says else wise.

i know most here will disagree with me but try to have a open mind here :).

Steel

I just got back from the memorial and just got that cock and bull story how God picks out his born again.

Then I started to think isn't the whole new testament essentially the story of becoming the new person in Christ?

It's really amazing the amount of dogma they can pull out of the book of revelations with ignoring the rest of the book.

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Dear supporters of Russia's JW Ban:

by Jehalapeno in

this is the kind of government you are supporting.. over 100 gay men have been sent to concentration camps for homosexuals in chechnya and three people have been killed.. stop supporting fascism.. if you support the russia jw ban, what other thoughts and beliefs are you ok with policing?.

if you support the jw russia ban, have you read george orwell's 1984?

don't you realize you are advocating for literal fascism when you support the banning of a belief system?

Steel

I think the slippery slope arguement of not going after hate groups and family destroying cults is a paranoid American fantasy.

Like having the right to have an elective abortion at 8 months or owning air to surface missiles. If we can't do or own things like this, what happens next. The queen of England might kick down my front door.

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Dear supporters of Russia's JW Ban:

by Jehalapeno in

this is the kind of government you are supporting.. over 100 gay men have been sent to concentration camps for homosexuals in chechnya and three people have been killed.. stop supporting fascism.. if you support the russia jw ban, what other thoughts and beliefs are you ok with policing?.

if you support the jw russia ban, have you read george orwell's 1984?

don't you realize you are advocating for literal fascism when you support the banning of a belief system?

Steel

You do realize saying whatever you want when ever you want is kind of a western concept that seems quite strange to some people.

Let's say you were living in the midwest United States and every Saturday morning you would receive a knock on your door from two strange and neatly dressed people.

They tell you your church you attend is controlled by Satan, its amoral to aid in the defence of the country, the government is controlled by demons and having any political leanings is wrong.

Then they tell you there are seven magical men Moscow Russia that are a channel to God and though your works and obedience these men and the organization they lead you can be saved.

Good god the arrogance of made in the USA cults is unbelievable.

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RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

by jwleaks in

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the trial has begun.

the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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Steel

It sure must be odd to see seven American men come over to Russia and claim to be gods spokesperson on Earth. I think that alone might just piss off the Russians officials.

Could you imagine seven Russians coming to the states claiming such total nonsense. Why can only Americans make such shit up.

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

Steel

I don't really understand the importance of the memorial with all the annoited get a hit canned a few years back.

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Jehovah witnesses and life insurance

by Steel in

my wife was recently cornered by the elders about her blood card because she didn't have one.

so one elder witnessed her sign it and he signed it and one elder made himself her health care agent.. with the memorial coming up i am thinking of maybe having a life insurance policy drawn up, maybe in the amount of 300 or 400 dollars a month and i will ask these two dipshits if they would like to sign it.

it only seems fair they should be finicially responsible for my son since they made my wife sign a document endangering her safety.. what do you think?.

Steel

The elders were checking. My wife lost her card years ago and never bothered to replace it. I hope secretly she may not agree with it.

Now they stand over you and witness you sign it and mostly likely have a copy of it on record. It's absolutely disgusting.

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Jehovah witnesses and life insurance

by Steel in

my wife was recently cornered by the elders about her blood card because she didn't have one.

so one elder witnessed her sign it and he signed it and one elder made himself her health care agent.. with the memorial coming up i am thinking of maybe having a life insurance policy drawn up, maybe in the amount of 300 or 400 dollars a month and i will ask these two dipshits if they would like to sign it.

it only seems fair they should be finicially responsible for my son since they made my wife sign a document endangering her safety.. what do you think?.

Steel

So

My wife was recently cornered by the elders about her blood card because she didn't have one. So one elder witnessed her sign it and he signed it and one elder made himself her health care agent.

With the memorial coming up I am thinking of maybe having a life insurance policy drawn up, maybe in the amount of 300 or 400 dollars a month and I will ask these two dipshits if they would like to sign it. It only seems fair they should be finicially responsible for my son since they made my wife sign a document endangering her safety.

What do you think?

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We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

by lusitano o tuga in

see what bridget azaz did!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

Steel

I though the whole taking part in the emblems was about making a public declaration that you were a Christian, thus you were part of the new covenant.

Silly me.

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JW apologetics websites.

by Steel in

lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.

really interesting stuff.

i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.

Steel

I was just googling a commentary on a verse John 12 41 about who did Isiah in the old testament see and what is being referred too.

A found a paper by Gregg Stanford with a 21 page response how it was jehovah not Jesus. Trying to read it was looking into the mind of a mad man.

Some of this stuff literally borders on mental illness.