Great couple of posts Mark. Thanks for taking the time to write your story down.
konceptual99
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My Story "Act 2"
by MarkofCane in“it has been said, 'time heals all wounds.
' i do not agree.
the wounds remain.
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Infighting at the top?
by JeffT inwe've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.
clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.
item: the constant harping about money and donations.
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konceptual99
There have been some very interesting thoughts posted here.
What is 100% true is that there have been serious inter-department and inter-branch differences. For example, the design and construction teams being led out of NY and Germany have a history of not really working well together. This comes from two Bethel sources.
What is also true is the use of commercially experienced third parties (some Witnesses and some not) to develop new strategies for the organisation. I have had this confirmed by the brother of one such person and others on here have confirmed similar accounts.
They have also asked for "no idea is too stupid" input from Bethelites and had boxes where ideas could be posted anonymously. This was confirmed to me by a serving Bethelite.
We have seen significant changes such as:
- shift in the focus of the WTS away from published material to online
- centralisation of funds (KH money grab)
- realisation of property assets
- downsizing
- changes to hierarchy (no DOs, COs not having to go to Bethel to approve appointments)
- more emotive and superficial teaching methods (videos, appeals to emotions)
- changes to the meetings
- high utilisation of Kingdom Halls
- use of "special" and "international" conventions as glorified pep rallies with the welcoming of delegates, gift exchanges, crying and waving blah blah blah
- consolidation and centralisation of some departments (e.g. Design and Construction becoming one global team led from NY)
- JW.ORG rebrand
These have come from such think tanks. More is on the way I am sure.
My personal opinion is that the GB are generally united in pushing things forward however there may be some more sympathetic to the impact of such change on older ones and others more gung ho about taking the rank and file along with the changes.
At the end of the day they do not expect any open rebellion. They expect the vast majority to embrace things or at the very least put up and shut up. Any who do dissent and leave the organisation are just a little bit of collateral damage.
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5th Columb : We need a signal to identify each other
by Deltawave ini have been thinking, it is a lonely place in the real world knowing ttatt but if we have a phrase we can unite, support and help each other.
the question we will ask is:.
what's your favorite bible verse?
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The problem with a such a phrase on a web site that is easily monitored by sneaky elders and others desperate to expose lurking apostates is that they know the phrase as well so it's not really safe to use. -
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To me this seams like more than a coincidence ...
by Greybeard insorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.
what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?
i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.
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konceptual99
Don't know about body parasites but most overweight, unhealthy and sick people I've met are full of too much junk food.
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when you went to an "assembly" did you wear a badge?
by greenhornet init embarrassed me.
when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.
after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.
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konceptual99
You might wear a badge at an event but they don't expect you wear it round the town in the evening when going out for a meal or whilst travelling to and from the event. Invariably badges for typical corporate events are plain, simple affairs not weird mini billboards. Corporate event holders don't use the wearing of a badge as a reason to ensure dress is of a certain standard even when the delegate is on their own time.
I always hated the badges, only ever wore mine when in the stadium and when I had kids stopped wearing them so as not to inflict the same embarrassment on them.
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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...
by NeverKnew inthis article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.
can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?
plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.
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konceptual99
I remember on one of the builds, a brother got caught sticking his finger up another brothers bum.
Oh well, it's a change from the arse licking that normally goes on as wannabes try and climb up the ladder of RBC (LDC now of course) responsibility. -
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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...
by NeverKnew inthis article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.
can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?
plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.
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konceptual99
I just spoke with a brother who volunteers on security on the site, he told me there is lots of earth moving going on but its top secret.
He said they think there is something big being built underground at the site, and thats why most volunteers had to leave, there is only 30 or so left, the security volunteers are not allowed near the main project they have to stay in the forest areas.Most volunteers had to leave as they are not ready to proceed with any significant building works. The design team are working on changing plans so they don't build what they no longer need. As pointed out in another post removing the contaminated soil involves earthworks. Even if they are building something in the ground I wouldn't get too excited. It will not be a secret underground bunker.
I've not had the first hand conversation re what security volunteers can/can't do but the fuel, oil, battery fluids and other chemical contamination is not something you want to come into contact with. The control mentality is so strong inside the org that they everything has to have rules and a hierarchy associated with it.
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when you went to an "assembly" did you wear a badge?
by greenhornet init embarrassed me.
when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.
after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.
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konceptual99
Gave up wearing badges years ago and never get any for the family. -
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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konceptual99
I for one look forward to more of your posts on this topic cofty .
100% agree.
I wonder why some people try to shut down these type of discussions .?
Because they interpret well established, factual assertions as some kind of dogmatic statement based on nothing more than ego and hubris. Rather than coming up with reasonable arguments as to how the data could be realistically interpreted differently to support creation they view a pure statement of fact as a personal attack purely based on intellectual snobbery.
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No Sports Cars Please!
by snugglebunny ini read on a jw forum that jw's came in for disapproval if they drove either sports cars or 2-door cars.
the reasoning was that a driver couldn't easily take fellow dubbies out preaching in such a vehicle.
was that ever official policy or just local nonsense from a grumpy po?.
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konceptual99
@jrk
- WAYYYYY too loud for my liking
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the trousers that is :-)