Brilliant - loved it. If the original 1977 New Hope did not hold such a sentimental place in my heart from my childhood then I would say this was the best by far.
Got. To. Go. Again.
konceptual99
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Going to see Star Wars:The Force Awakens - What are you seeing?
by fulltimestudent inthis is not an attempt to 'straightjacket' anyone into a fixed interpretative perspective.
so set your mind free and see satan and his demons if you reallynwant to adopt a possible jw perspective.
or, just sit back and watch the show and the trick affects if you want.. or like the uk guardian you could see the movie in terms of dysfunction (personal and family).. quote: the original movies were always based on the most extraordinary nexus of personal and family dysfunction: a motor of guilt, shame and conflict.
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Going to see Star Wars:The Force Awakens - What are you seeing?
by fulltimestudent inthis is not an attempt to 'straightjacket' anyone into a fixed interpretative perspective.
so set your mind free and see satan and his demons if you reallynwant to adopt a possible jw perspective.
or, just sit back and watch the show and the trick affects if you want.. or like the uk guardian you could see the movie in terms of dysfunction (personal and family).. quote: the original movies were always based on the most extraordinary nexus of personal and family dysfunction: a motor of guilt, shame and conflict.
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Congregation average
by dothemath ina while back at our co visit, he commended the cong.
because our average hours had gone up.. we went from around 7.3 to about 7.5. i recall the days when anything less than 10 was considered awful.. of course now, they don't even print the hours in the km or anywhere.. i was wondering how these numbers compared to other congregations?.
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konceptual99
This was one of my bug bears - complete inconsistency about how to interpret and enforce a cultural meme with no scriptural basis.
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JW Talk
by Alive! inwas sipping my coffee, browsing here and there, and then focussed on reading here regarding arc, picked up some world news on same subject - and wondered if jw org would publish any information on their news site.. then, i flicked to jw talk - anything in their public news forum?
a newish headline 'australia and jehovah's witnesses' or something like that - i entered link - web page error, not found.
nope.
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konceptual99
JWTalk is what it is.
It's an independent website that has it's own set of rules. If you want to go and play there then you accept the rules they have.
They have addressed the matter of creating the website in the site FAQ. They try and maintain the place as safe for those fully in members by aggressively moderating the site. I think they are judgemental, underhand and restrictive of open and free expression but that's no different to the organisation they follow.
You have to remember that if they allowed open debate then the place would be full of apostates arguing the toss and they would not have the site they want. You have to remember that turning up there and coming out with questions, statements or topics that are controversial or could be perceived as critical is no different to walking into a new hall as as stranger and starting such a conversation with a bunch of the local elders. You are going to stand out like a sore thumb.
Mods there are self righteous and love to act as judge and jury. What's new there? They are paranoid about apostates and not adverse to underhand tactics but again, can you really be that surprised? It their playground and their rules. If you are a fifth column apostate over there then you are already playing dirty.
The whole of the organisation is based on the rule that you can have any opinion you like just so long as it's ours. Why does anyone expect JWTalk to be any different?
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JW Talk
by Alive! inwas sipping my coffee, browsing here and there, and then focussed on reading here regarding arc, picked up some world news on same subject - and wondered if jw org would publish any information on their news site.. then, i flicked to jw talk - anything in their public news forum?
a newish headline 'australia and jehovah's witnesses' or something like that - i entered link - web page error, not found.
nope.
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konceptual99
Oeps, I have being banned from JW talk, because I said my honest opinion, about the fact, that I mentioned in a replie on the topic of the RC, that they have made mistakes, in the cases discussed by the RC, and that even when they are not obbligated they have to report it to the police, so that they can prevent, and protect children, against sexual abuse..
this morning, when I logged in, I saw I was banned, without an reasonable explanation. Given..and a PM of a member that said that he want tnot receive any PM's anymore from me..
I can now log in, but I can't see any post or topics being discussed from members, I can only dialogue with the moderators, and eventually the will evaluate if they will post something I like to be posted..I am certain mods from there lurk here and I think it was obvious that they would pick up on your comments about PMs from the poster on JWT. Either it was you or the poster was in cahoots with a member here. Either way it will alert their fifth column apostate radar. You have now admited you have been banned so don't expect reinstatement anytime soon.
If you really want to lurk there then you have to be very careful about what you post, if anything. You really have to imagine that you are having a conversation in the hall with wannabe COs...
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They're selling some assembly halls
by LaFrancia init has confirmed the news!
in italy selling assembly halls.. the managers are deciding which assembly halls keep continuing to use them for the assemblies, and assembly halls which sell the best buyer.
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konceptual99
CA's/ Special Day Assemblies are going to be the next big thing to be chopped completely I can just see it, their greed in this quick fire sell off's of their property portfolio is gathering pace, and is quite breathtaking at times.The Assembly hall where I got baptised a former young offenders institution in the middle of the Surrey stockbroker belt must be worth a fortune.
Good 'ol Haysbridge!
I am expecting the opposite - more use of assembly halls at the expense of regional convention sites. Here in the UK there are only a few facilities - Haysbridge, Bristol, North London and East Pennines - so I can only see them selling them off if, as you suggest, they drop the CA completely.
Of course, if it is possible to get circuits into one hall where there were two then of course they will sell one off.
It will be interesting to see what the outcome of any proposed sales are in Italy to get a feel for what the WTS is actually planning.
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In the Shadow of Sin-Portuguese documentary
by the girl next door inhttps://youtu.be/8ue3--fnsh8.
the portuguese channel tvi in portugal, broadcast this documentary in october 2015 about jehovah's witnesses.
child abuse, shunning, blood transfusions and many other topics were mentioned in this report.the documentary makers asked for a response from the leadership of jehovahs witnesses to the damaging statements made by survivors of child abuse and domestic violence.
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$1.2 billion coming, still 12 properties to go
by the girl next door inbut still, they ask for more at every opportunity.
send in that ice cream money kids!.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/4/sales-watchtower-headquarters-and-two-other-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-properties-could.
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konceptual99
Theories abound on this subject. I am dubious of either extreme. I don't think the WTS is haemorrhaging cash and is going to be brought down by a raft of pedo claims. I also don't think the WTS is so cash rich they have it all covered for decades.
I suspect there are a number of things going on.
Firstly they can see that the long term trend is for less cash per head to come in from the congregations. The growth is in poorer countries and so, pro-rata, more shall be needed to be looked after by less. Physical literature is being reduced through (a) less being printed and (b) greater reliance on electronic delivery. Costs reduce of course but so does the nudge that people had to donate each time they picked up literature.
Secondly, they rapidly increased costs in the short term with a number of large building projects. They have also likely spent large sums on the rebrand, JW Broadcasting, animation facilities. They have also been building RTOs like there is no tomorrow.
Thirdly they have sat on a number of assets and been unable to realise their value to fund building programs etc.
Fourthly, they have conducted some kind of internal process review and concluded that they are spending lots of money maintaining hotel facilities for Bethelites. They have also seen the rise in costs for looking after older full time servants and done projections on what this will cost in the next 10-20 years.
Fifthly, they see a real risk of losing tax free status in one or more lands that provide major contributions. They are realising cash now (e.g. forgiving loans in return for donating cash on hand) and preparing for the worst.
Sixthly, I do not discount the reserving of funds to shut up the loudest claimants against the WTS regarding abuse.
I am certain that the GB 2.0 allowed spend to escalate way more rapidly than their predecessors and somewhere along the line realised the problem. They got a quick injection via the hall loan asset grab but now have the real figures on which to plan for the future. They can see the trend and now are cashing in on the property.
They have got rid of loads of full time servants that will be costing them money in healthcare over the next 10-20 years and stopped running hotels.
They are already consolidating halls and I predict further and more severe cuts here too. I do not rule out the compulsory closure of halls with just one congregation and forcing them to share 2-4 congs in a hall.
I predict further reductions in conventions with more use of assembly halls. The move to single days has two benefits. One is to allow greater occupancy and the second is to make the same money in one day that used to be in two days.
As has been pointed out many times now, this is no longer a publishing organisation. It is making it's money out of property. Some of this is buying and selling but they have also sussed that they need to be landlords as well and make the most out of property occupancy.
I could even see them pre-empting unfavourable tax status changes and simply telling the congregations that they own the hall now and charging a rent.
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The lord of the rings
by BlackWolf innow that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.
i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!
who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.
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konceptual99
I know loads of Witnesses that watch LOTR & The Hobbit. It's rare to find anyone open about Harry Potter though.
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2015 November 19, BOE! Circuit Account Balances!
by Atlantis indelete if already posted.. .
2015-november 19, boe.
.. re: review of circuit account balances.
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konceptual99
And they have the nerve to say they recognise the financial hardship people are under.
Instead of surplus funds offset the costs of the next assembly (including the extortionate hall usage fees) the account gets set to zero each time.
The dubs that contribute are putting money into the WWW (aka Bethel coffers) 3 times... directly at the hall, surplus KH funds and now surplus circuit funds. As to how many realise it is another question.