Posts by konceptual99

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Questions to ask after July broadcast

by scooterspank in

jw
friends

just wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?

or is it even worth the trouble.

konceptual99

You might as well bang your head on a brick wall.

The majority of the rhetoric on that other site is along the lines of:

- the elders are not the police

- even the courts need two witnesses

- the parents should be disfellowshipped (or more) for not reporting and leaving their kids with others... "they should serve time for neglect and pay a stiff fine as well. I'm so disgusted." or "Why is the organisation held guiltier (more responsible) than the parents in such cases?"

- people are stupid for not reporting

- this is a subject being manipulated by apostates

etc... etc... etc...

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Should I hit send button as is? Change? Or just hit delete?

by Lied2NoMore in

so after being deleted because of my comment on her instagram post by my sister-in-law i got a text from her stating she didn't want a debate on instagram and the scripture i posted would not apply to satan, they are worried about me, go see elders, return to jehovah, or else you won't get life, etc etc.... i'm ready to respond with the following reply:.

so....hit send?

make changes?

konceptual99

Got to agree with mille210. Anything that makes you sound angry and bitter will likely simply be tossed aside and reinforce the position your sister has taken that she has some righteous justification for writing you off.

I think you make a great point about her never saying anything to anyone on the doors about "do this or you will die". If you were to send anything then I would concentrate on this point, keep it simple, non-aggressive and appeal to her heart. Why should she write you off so quickly? What was Jesus track record with those who had doubts? It does not matter if you believe in Jesus or not, you simply are trying to stop her bedding herself into some kind of entrenched position of self-righteousness.

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Well isn't this a bunch of BS

by Doctor Who in

well, our sister congregation just had their co visit this past week.

on saturday afternoon, i was talking to a couple of ministerial servants in that congregation and they stated that an unmarried brother is not fulfilling to the max what jehovah wants of us.

they stated that the co went on a tirade that if you are unmarried you are being selfish and not following what jehovah wanted for mankind since he created eve as a compliment for the man.

konceptual99

This seems a turnaround from the "Responsible Childbearing In The Time Of The End" talks of the 70s and 80s...

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Let's Play a Game Using Instagram... JWS or LDS?

by freemindfade in

jw or lds??

?.

konceptual99

JW

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Local Elders whip the Congregation into a frenzy about donating to the Organization

by James Jack in

because of the may broadcast about how funds are down, our elders have been in their talks "encouraging" or pressuring everyone to donate more to the world wide work.. it freaks me out how we already give them a set amount of $600 a month, plus what is contributed by the congregation(usually $400 to $500 a month).

heck, our local congregation bank account even got below $500 for the first time this past may since i have been doing the accounts(4 years now).

for june, we raised a whopping $2400 to send into the branch.. the most amazing part, is that only a select few contribute on a regular basis every month.

konceptual99

Our congregation has had this as well over the past few weeks. Just one week ago there was a resolution, after handing out "pledge" slips a couple of weeks before, to reduce the monthly figure paid by 40% as the congregation was no where near having 3 months funds on hand. There were also local needs about basically putting less in the WWW and more in the local cong box.

I have never heard so many talks about the need for funds as since the org supposedly "cancelled" the loan for our hall build.

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Pre assembly video clip

by InquiryMan in

the music is somewhat different than in traditional jw-video clips.. https://sammankomst.org/#/video/tirsdag.mp4/forberedelser%20-%20tisdag.

konceptual99

Amazing. Jehovah's organisation accomplishes something that never happens in the world. Imagine being able to arrange for the erection of some display arrays and line array audio. Truly the organisation is blessed. I expect all the stadium filling bands and artists are looking on in awe and wonder at how they might be able accomplish something even close to this, I hear a delegation of the tour managers representing U2, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Beyonce, Muse and some other global superstars attended to get some ideas on what they could do for the stage sets for their artists' respective tours. The only problem for them is cost. After all they have to pay roadies and production staff.

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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???

by 1rebelheart in

jw
friends

so, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.

i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.

sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?

konceptual99

I don't think the WTS fabricate the figures directly however we all know that a proportion of the hours done and publications placed are completely made up by a number of those submitted their monthly report.

Of course, the WTS do apply artistic licence to how they categorise and present figures...

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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???

by 1rebelheart in

jw
friends

so, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.

i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.

sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?

konceptual99

Sparrowdown...

I agree that questioning the underlying faith (or lack of it) is of importance and that this cannot be quantified and therefore visualised, however I think that the graphs do have several important purposes.

They do show clear trends for any that wish to argue that the WTS has enjoyed unbridled growth. They expose the cherry picked figures that the WTS bring up (e.g. number of publications, number of hours, numbers baptised each day) and bring context to these. For anyone starting to wake up they provide compelling evidence that not all is hunkydory in WT land. In addition they provide support for hypothesis about the reasons for the less than altruistic actions of the WTS in asset grabbing.

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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???

by 1rebelheart in

jw
friends

so, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.

i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.

sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?

konceptual99

Fisherman....

Please check this page out. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

Unquestionably there are more Witnesses now than 5, 10, 20 years ago but the statistics show worrying trends, not least the number of hours required to get just one baptism.

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Geoffrey Jackson compares waiting for Armageddon to waiting for Brazil to score a goal against Argentina!

by GodZoo in

wtf!https://vid.me/8tuy

konceptual99

AC "Well there is no 50 meter or 25 meter mark on a soccer pitch ..."

Plus, the time left is clear, since any extra time after the 90 minutes have been played is calculated and displayed on a big electronic board by the fourth official just before the 90 minutes are up.