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  CAH closing down in upstate NY

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

  they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

  elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

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  konceptual99

  Is there any formal confirmation of this such as a copy of letter/announcement?
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  Are J.W's obsesed with their statis??

  by karter in

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  2. friends

  i went to a j.w funeral and saw some people i used to hang out with many years ago and they all seemed to want to tell me if they or any member of their family were elders,m.s's,pioneers ect.. karter..

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  konceptual99

  To be fair it's just their form of establishing a social status. People tend to mix with with people of similar social, economic and political views. Employment is often used as to establish common ground and hierarchy. In dubland this holds true as well however the predominate social acceptance benchmarks are based around "spiritual" standing which is measured by having a title in the congregation. It's a simple way of establishing the credentials of someone new and vetting them.

  The fact it's just a way of prejudging someone, has no real link to spirituality and ignores the fact you can get on with people that don't agree with you on everything passes your average JW right by but is really just a form of social behaviour that is manifest in pretty much every population group in the world.
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  Nothing Says, "I Love You!" Like Institutionalized Shunning!

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

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  may 15, 2105 watchtower, pp.

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  konceptual99

  Yup, why us this only in the one version? Is it because the "meek" of this world can see the obvious problems with the policy?
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  £150,000,000 Jehovahs Witnesses HQ approved

  by defender of truth in

  1. social
  2. current

  the jehovahs witnesses have gained planning to build a vast uk headquarters complex in chelmsford.the international bible students association, which manages the christian groups literature, gained planning to redevelop a derelict farm near galleywood with a 1.2m sq ft scheme.the 150m complex will provide homes for 1,200 people spread across 16 five-storey blocks, a large printing plant, offices, auditorium, health and fitness centre, water treatment plant and on-site parking for 1,040 vehicles.. the ibsa is now set to begin groundwork at the 82-acre temple farm site and start construction by 2016.. .

  www.constructionenquirer.com/2015/04/29/150m-jehovahs-witnesses-hq-approved-for-chelmsford/.

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  konceptual99

  Be prepared to see Bethel homes become cheaper per square metre. Right now these things are not saleable - who wants to buy big accommodation blocks? They need to be cheaper to build as it's the land they sit on that has the value. This is another area where outside contractors are useful - they know how to build stuff like this to a price.
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  Pacquiao vs Mayweather

  by Clambake in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i have a ton of filipino friends and this is huge.

  manny is a huge underdog but it is literally good vs evil.

  go manny .

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  konceptual99

  You can listen on the BBC as well. bbc.co.uk/5live. Btw who is that murdering the U.S. National anthem?
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  £150,000,000 Jehovahs Witnesses HQ approved

  by defender of truth in

  1. social
  2. current

  the jehovahs witnesses have gained planning to build a vast uk headquarters complex in chelmsford.the international bible students association, which manages the christian groups literature, gained planning to redevelop a derelict farm near galleywood with a 1.2m sq ft scheme.the 150m complex will provide homes for 1,200 people spread across 16 five-storey blocks, a large printing plant, offices, auditorium, health and fitness centre, water treatment plant and on-site parking for 1,040 vehicles.. the ibsa is now set to begin groundwork at the 82-acre temple farm site and start construction by 2016.. .

  www.constructionenquirer.com/2015/04/29/150m-jehovahs-witnesses-hq-approved-for-chelmsford/.

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  On the point of European branches, we shall see. I think it's more likely that it will take over work in parts of Africa, the Indian sub-continent and even Asia. The most important branch outside the US is not the UK, it's Germany. So perhaps there will be some consolidation but don't expect the UK to start taking over Germany's role.

  Germany is the link to eastern Europe and Russia.

  Chelmsford is near to large sea ports. I don't think that this is a coincidence and I think signals an intent to work wider afield in the EMEA region.
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  £150,000,000 Jehovahs Witnesses HQ approved

  by defender of truth in

  1. social
  2. current

  the jehovahs witnesses have gained planning to build a vast uk headquarters complex in chelmsford.the international bible students association, which manages the christian groups literature, gained planning to redevelop a derelict farm near galleywood with a 1.2m sq ft scheme.the 150m complex will provide homes for 1,200 people spread across 16 five-storey blocks, a large printing plant, offices, auditorium, health and fitness centre, water treatment plant and on-site parking for 1,040 vehicles.. the ibsa is now set to begin groundwork at the 82-acre temple farm site and start construction by 2016.. .

  www.constructionenquirer.com/2015/04/29/150m-jehovahs-witnesses-hq-approved-for-chelmsford/.

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  konceptual99

  There is a mix of outside contractors and volunteer labour working on Temple Farm. The WTS is moving to use outside contractors for a number of reasons such as continuity of work, expertise, health and safety, costs etc.

  It's easy to say that using volunteer labour reduces cost but if the project takes longer, has peaks and troughs of labour availability and involves overheads in accommodating these people then there are hidden costs that can be increased.

  Health & Safety legislation on building sites is always being tightened and nowadays you typically need documentation to prove you are competent just to get on a site, let alone do things like operate certain machinery or work at height. The logistics of making this happen with your weekend warrior volunteer is very complicated. Much easier to pass the risk and responsibility onto a contractor.

  The expertise required in large projects is increasing as well. Large groundworks, steel erection, modern building management and lighting control systems, facade systems, building code adherence etc. all require more skills than the WTS can be sure to have on tap at the right time. There's plenty of Bob the Builders in the congregations but not that many construction and engineering specialists with years of experience in large commercial building projects. That's not to say they are not there, just that having a contract in place means timescales can be more reliably followed and the right resource available.

  The final factor is that they don't want huge numbers of elders, servants and pioneers out of the congregations. They want them there leading people and keeping the numbers up. There is no doubt that when a large proportion of the bright lights in a congregation get embroiled in a construction project then everyone else slacks off or get hacked off at the workload they are enduring just cos the COBE is off enjoying cushty days eating bacon sarnies and home made cakes on site.

  
  
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  4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

  click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

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  konceptual99

  I don't know if this is simply JW Bethanal (sp intentional) bureaucracy at it's worst or a cynical attempt to weed out those who don't really support the blood doctrine.
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  If You Disassociate Yourself , Should You Be Notified In Writing , You Have Done So ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a person dis-associates one-self from the congregation of jehovah witnesses , could , or should , such a person request a written document / letter attesting to that fact ?.

  should the organisation formally inform such a person they are no longer a part of their organisation ?.

  why i ask this is because of dis-fellow shipping cases , correspondence between the two parties is common place .

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  konceptual99

  Unless it's one of the "disassociated by actions" special cases then there has to be a letter of disassociation from the individual to the congregation. Of course an acknowledgement would be polite but the individual has taken the formal step of documenting their wishes so I don't see that the lack of any further correspondence is a problem.

  The other thing is that there will be a public announcement at the next meeting.

  In some cases the elders may try and speak to an individual if they think there is some chance their mind can be changed or if perhaps there are some other circumstances specific to the case but in my experience most people that DA themselves have absolutely no intent of being any part of the org and will already be considered bad pennies. Most of the time the BoE will be only to glad to be shot of the person.
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  4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

  click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

  .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

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  konceptual99

  Thanks for these. What is interesting about the AD document is that the elders are being encouraged to have a copy of these documents on file. They therefore have a flag if there are any in congregation that refuse to do this.

  I thought there might be a gradual fade on the blood doctrine but it appears not.