Posts by konceptual99

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

If this rumor about the high return of DF'd ones is true...

100% sure it's not. 300 DFed people returning to a convention. No way. 300 DFed people would be 3 or 4 per congregation attending. Not. A. Chance.

This is at best 300 (and it might not even be that high) people who didn't bring badges for one reason or another getting told to report to the attendants office and get one. The majority of them would have been dubs who didn't get one, unbelieving mates, studies, inactive ones and so on. Some would have been Dfed for sure but a small minority.

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Relaxed rules toward oral sex?

by Socrateswannabe in

these people won't state anything definitively, but here's an excerpt from the study article entitled "making christian marriage a success", in the august, 2016 watchtower.

it does make me wonder.. although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural, sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

(song of solomon 1:2; 2:6) christian marriage partners should treat each other with tenderness.

konceptual99

Note the qualifying use of the term "natural". Whilst this paragraph does leave far more scope for interpretation it could still be twisted to say whatever someone wanted it to say.

Having said that, I do think that there is far less appetite within the org for elders to needlessly pry into private affairs between two married people.

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JW match.com. Any good?

by UnshackleTheChains in

hi all.. no i'm not about to join 😉.

the mrs would never forgive me lol.

but out of curiosity, does anyone know of any individuals who have successfully met someone this way?.

konceptual99

Yes - I know of a handful of current long term relationships and a couple of marriages.

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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit

by Diogenesister in

ex-circuit overseer here, ama.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.

konceptual99

Interesting point about the CO route being a dead end. Nowadays all they can hope for is to be used for schools then inevitably farmed back out to the congregation in their late 50s, early 60s to toil as a pioneer with hardly a thank you, let alone a nice golden handshake.

Spending one's life in Jehovah's service is hardly the glittering alternative to a worldly career that it was once made out to be.

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

TBH, I think a lot has to do with the LOCATION.

This is true however it doesn't stop the club doing pat down searches of everyone attending a football game there - up to 33k people as opposed to <10k dubs.

While they both need security - the level and type of security will be different - as this thread has shown.

From other reports it would seem some venues were more serious in how they took security than others which is slightly odd as normally the WTS is pretty consistent in how it applies instructions so I am a little surprised the attendants are Brighton were not more vigilant but hey ho...

If you include everyone not an active publisher - DF, family pressured ones and the socializers 300 is a reasonable number.

Yup - I guess 300 such people across 10k or so is reasonable even if pretty time consuming to process.

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

mmm - Fair enough if we are talking about the general hodge podge of submarine attendees then there would be a bigger figure possible but I am still dubious of the number.

Having said that if there were 10k attendees (for sake of argument) then 300 ppl with no badges might be reasonable I suppose.

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

Just a side point.... at Brighton last year there was a big whoohar made in the final talk about ONE person who turned up with an invite. Surely THREE HUNDRED people turning up, DFed at that, would not be lauded from the platform like it was Jesus himself riding up on a giant blue unicorn?

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

Dark - I don't buy 300 DFed people turned up and were given badges at the Liverpool convention.

I buy that security may have been more rigorously applied at the venue than elsewhere but 300 DFed ones? Really?

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

Didn't happen in Brighton to me, my family and a number of others I know who did not have badges. Not even asked about it.

How long would it take to process 300 "visitors" in the manner suggested?

Just out of interest, does anyone know the attendance at Liverpool?

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

konceptual99

I haven't worn a badge for years, including this one and even with all the bag checks, tags and so called security no one mentioned it.

I don't believe they even would have 300 lapel badges on hand to give to randoms turning up. I don't buy it at all even if the brothers at Liverpool were more vigilant than elsewhere given the Manchester arena tragedy.