That's a good point and probably the number one reason for keeping them the way they are but I don't think anything is sacrosanct and perhaps the financial impact is not as great as we might think or is there is (or has been) a slide in donations at the conventions.
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Branch Vists the new Regional Convention?
by konceptual99 inso there was a mention yesterday about "next year's" branch visit and this being streamed.. is there a chance these will become the new regional convention?
consider the evidence:.
- branches being closed down or downsized.
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Science disproves JW claims
by elbib inaccording to quantum theory and non-locality, two particles, can act in unity.
for example, take a and b (photons or electrons for example).
pair them, then separate them, and put them on either side of the planet.
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Branch Vists the new Regional Convention?
by konceptual99 inso there was a mention yesterday about "next year's" branch visit and this being streamed.. is there a chance these will become the new regional convention?
consider the evidence:.
- branches being closed down or downsized.
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So there was a mention yesterday about "next year's" branch visit and this being streamed.
Is there a chance these will become the new Regional Convention? Consider the evidence:
- branches being closed down or downsized
- emergence of "super branches" - US, Japan, South Africa, Germany
- streaming technology increasingly in place in halls and the technology being used more and more
- use of GB helpers to go to branches instead of it having to be GB members
- desire to reduce the overhead of organising large stadium events indicated by increasing "simplification" and use of pre-prepared video presentations
- the removal of the "district" both as a name and as an administrative grouping with a DO. Region can be as large or small as they want
If you had a two day event you could probably hit all the people in a branch territory in two weekends with a combination of assembly hall and kingdom hall presentations.
So we may have just be having a new yearly special meeting to listen to a branch visit session or could this be the latest in a line of baby steps to moving the RC away from stadiums to halls?
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Science disproves JW claims
by elbib inaccording to quantum theory and non-locality, two particles, can act in unity.
for example, take a and b (photons or electrons for example).
pair them, then separate them, and put them on either side of the planet.
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Programme for UK branch visit
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini've seen this weekend's uk branch visit mentioned a few times.
for those who are interested, here is the programme:-.
1:00 pm song 63 & prayer - p. gillies.
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Great review Saltheart. I agree 100%. I hate to say it but I quite enjoyed the last talk in as much as it focused on the side of Christianity which reflects humanism. Of course it suggested these qualities are something "the world" cannot hope to emulate and certainly did not make me suddenly think perhaps the organisation is OK after all but it was one of the most thoughtful talks I have heard in long, long time.
The Chelmsford update was laughable however.
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A big thanks to all you good good people
by aboveusonlysky in"when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies" jefferson airplane.
until that is you find websites like this!
i want to say a big thank you to all of you for everything i've learned here, as well as jwfacts, jwsurvey, coc, isocf etc.. i'm a born in and i spent more than two decades of my adult life in full time 'service' for the (b)org.
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Lets hear what your local needs was about this week
by dbq407 inours started out with matt.
25:23. he brought out that "good and faithful slave" was talking about the anointed but wait for it.........yes the principle can be applied to our cong.
well tonight it was about getting all the territories worked once a year.
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Ours was a "sit down and shut up" ball break.
Last week a long standing elder (40+ years) was deleted for saying a few words at the funeral of friend (a UBM who attended the hall reasonably regularly) which subsequently had a pastor say some words. No other witnesses at the funeral were offended but when a another elder overheard a conversation about it he jumped on it and teamed up with his cronies to stab this brother in the back and get him chucked off for "interfaith".
There was no mercy shown, no understanding or reasonableness. Bizarrely the body were told to vote on it yet also told it was a black and white issue. The elder was told if he disagreed with the BoE decision and sought an appeal then he would be supporting interfaith and would face a JC and would be disfellowshipped if not repentant.
So last week this was announced. This week, the elder who kicked this all off gave the local needs and presented the account as a "scenario" then launched into a tirade about anyone disagreeing with the BoE would be guilty of causing divisions.
So the local needs was used to bully everyone to ensure no one complains or murmurs against the callous behaviour of the ringleaders.
Makes you sick.
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How Many Elders And Ministerial Servants Are There In Your Congregation?
by Village Idiot ini'm curious to see how much manpower a little congregation - a hundred?
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How Many Elders And Ministerial Servants Are There In Your Congregation?
by Village Idiot ini'm curious to see how much manpower a little congregation - a hundred?
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There are two aspects to it rebel.
Firstly there is a surprising amount of work because the org makes it so with copious paperwork, form filling, procedures etc. Really four or five elders is a minimum for a congregation above 80 or so people assuming those elders are healthy and have a reasonable amount of time. Many elders are older, are ill or have family circumstances that limit what they can do.
Secondly, having "privileges" in the congregation, especially being an elder, is aspirational and an outward sign you are "spiritual". It's a marker to everyone else that you can be trusted and are loyal. A man older than his late 30s who is not a ministerial servant, let alone an elder, is usually considered a little suspect even if everything else they do conforms to the norm.
Being an elder is a control mechanism, both of the flock the elder is in charge of and the individual holding the position.
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How Many Elders And Ministerial Servants Are There In Your Congregation?
by Village Idiot ini'm curious to see how much manpower a little congregation - a hundred?
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Approx 110 publishers. We had 11 elders but one was stabbed in the back and forcibly dumped last week after 40+ years on a pure technicality.
Dunno how many minis - must be around 5 or 6.