Posts by konceptual99

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Have you got a cow that you could sell ?

by pepperheart in

have you got a cow that you could sell for the gb they really really need the money

konceptual99

The rank and file really are now the org's cash cow...

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

konceptual99

Chelmsford is moving ahead however it may be a while before things ramp up on site again. They have done much of the access roads, site clearance and preparation. They have held off most (maybe all) groundworks due to changing the plans. Many long term volunteers have been released from their assignment.

From what I can tell talking to contacts they are working through changing the designs to take into account the reduction in Bethel staff (-25%) and removal some of the "luxuries" like sports facilities and larger laundry and catering areas.

You can now count on one hand the number of projects the worldwide design team are working on. Warwick and Chelmsford are two of them.

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January Broadcast

by JustVisting in

new broadcast, same tactics.

a teenage witness kid who only recently acquired a calf (agriculture school project i assume) offers to sell it to help pay for daddy's airfare to warwick.

unbelievable!

konceptual99

It sure beats an ice cream. That's it kids - sell your first cow!

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

konceptual99

Kingdom Halls projects are moving on. Whilst there is absolutely some prevarication by the LDC to push on with some halls I expect we shall see more activity over the coming months.

Part of the slow down has been due to the move from the RBC to LDC. This has been a big organisational change, complicated by the staffing changes at Bethel and the obvious financial backtracking and adjustments. Reading between the lines of conversations I have had I also suspect that the plan to have full time Bethel people running projects has not panned out as expected.

The biggest change has been at Bethel/RTO level. The worldwide design team has been slashed and I mean slashed. Pretty much every Bethel had some kind of renovation or improvement project being worked on. Over 90% of these projects have been canned.

Of course, the upper echelons are spinning the facts with no shame. The impression is that expansion continues, construction moves on and the need for workers and (more importantly) money is greater than ever. I think the comment I saw about the lack of JW.ORG signs on a number of halls used in this months broadcast was on the mark - I too suspect many of these are not quite as new as we are being led to believe. In that vein however, expect to see new halls and showcase RTOs promoted heavily in an attempt to keep momemtum on cash flowing in. As for when Warwick gets finished later this year the fanfare will be huge.

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

konceptual99

There is far more difference of opinion and debate here than would ever be tolerated in any Kingdom Hall. It is true that sometimes there are strong disagreements, occasionally proper arguments and verbal fisticuffs. On the whole however, that does not prevent people coming together when needed. There is no way this would happen at the Kingdom Hall.

I guess it is fair to say that WT apologists and Creationist get short shrift however this is not because their opinions are not respected but generally because their approach is way too infantile.

One of the most refreshing things about releasing my mental shackles is being able to disagree with people yet still enjoy their company and maintain friendships.

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any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

by Magnum in

is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

konceptual99

Yes. The British branch build is getting going again.

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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

by Mark Zyche in

since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

konceptual99

Let's not feed the troll

Probably good advice. He's still a f**kwit though.

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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

by Mark Zyche in

since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

konceptual99

WHY ARE THESE MEN UNWILLING TO TALK DIRECTLY TO ME ON ANY THAT I SAY!?!!?

Er... Cofty did and your case closed response just confirmed you are are a f**kwit.

If you want to complain that's an ad hominem attack then I don't care since you are not prepared to have a proper discussion on any of your poorly presented arguments.

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January jw-tv broadcast with Lett

by bohm in

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friends

lett is back with a vengance!.

* the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.

* since last may "so many good things have happened".

konceptual99

thousands and thousands of posts AGAINST "the organization" but none quoting the bible .

Perhaps the GB could set the lead and provide quotes from the Bible to explain the overlapping generation doctrine?

All I keep seeing is charts.

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Steven Lett asks for money again

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

the 2016 january tv.jw.org broadcasting has a clear message: jw.org needs more money!.

the 2 months of donation increase is not enough: the thousands of projects are not a 2 month project.. so: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you (heh heh heh) and send us more!

personal conclusion: if i had any doubts that the society is sincere, this openly money grabbing has made my perception complete.

konceptual99

Of course Lett has the right to have a watch and rings. They can be any price if he's paid for them or someone has gifted them to him.

The point is about appearance.

The GB live in an ivory tower where their needs are taken care of by others. They supposedly live on the same stipend as the rest of the Bethel family.

With that in mind, it's at the very least, in poor taste to appear on a worldwide broadcast going out to many millions of people, many living in very poor circumstances, wearing the trappings of material success and repeatedly beg for contributions.

People can be pragmatic about the first class world wide travel, luxury accommodation, exclusive trips provided by wealthy brothers and so on. Most of this people do not see first hand. It really starts to grate and breed resentment when it's pushed in peoples' faces over JWB whilst begging for more greenbacks over and over again.

The evidence for watches being expensive models has been presented many times here and elsewhere.