Posts by konceptual99

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Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing

by Brokeback Watchtower in

warning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.

konceptual99

http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_VIDEO

Working on the proper transcript now...

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Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing

by Brokeback Watchtower in

warning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.

Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing

by Brokeback Watchtower in

warning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.

Ok so this is from a Youtube auto transcript. Apologies for the lack of formatting... I've not got time now to clean it up but if anyone wants to take over the mantle otherwise it will be later tonight probably...

this more I thought we'd connect to the fact that obedience to Jerome always leads to is blessing and let's take the Apostles as an example actual chapter 6 greeted as mentioned in our comments like hers connected the fact that they were involved with feeding previously literal truth the jesus miraculously provided there's some things of interest here from the 1st century and then we'll bring it up in a moment to the modern day let's read verses 1 through 4 of Acts Chapter six now in those days when the disciples were increasing the greek-speaking Jews began complaining against the Hebrew speaking jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution so the 12 called the multitude of the disciples together and said it is not right for us to leave the Word of God to distribute food to tables so brothers electra ourselves 7 reputable men from among you full of spirit and wisdom that we may appoint them over this necessary matter but we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the Ministry of the word so this is what you're hopeful wanted them to be focusing on they should not leave the Word of God they should be devoting themselves to prayer and in the ministry of the word that was the focus and they recognize that and its apparent as you look through the account access they were obedient to this injury over bless them because later go to act chapter 16 please things progressed and then they end up with various decisions that had to be made in the governing body did in large beyond the apostles there in the first century as we know so after some of these things were discussed at that level and they had been devoting themselves to ministry of the word and prayer obviously we don't know what's the results did Jehovah bless them you know the decisions weremade not notice here in verse for vac 16 as they travel down through the city's they were delivered to them all the congregation's observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in jerusalem so these decrees went out and because of their devoting themselves to the Ministry of the word and prayer to Jehovah bless them that bless those that are being the decrease was a beating and sleeting to solve his blessing for them as well well known as first 5 then indeed the congregation's continue to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number day by day so obviously Jehovah bless the obedience that was displayed once these decrees were sent out now let's bring it up to modern day here and you'll find this quite interesting idea some you might find jurors but here in verse for if you look at the regional language about decrees I notice that the Greek there the dog Mada you can hear the word doc neither well things have changed the means in English now is certainly not anything we want to say the faithful slave is guilty of notice here but dictionaries of head to say if you referred to a believer a system of beliefs as a dogma you disapprove of it because people are expected to accept that it is true without questioning a dogmatic view obviously is undesirable one other dictionaries if you say someone as dogmatic you are critical of them because they are convinced they are right and refused to consider that their opinions might also be justified well I don't think we would want to apply this to decisions that come out from the faithful slave and our time now we have apostates posers would like God's people to think that the faithful slave his dogmatic and they expect you to accept everything that comes out from headquarters as if its dogma arbitrarily decided well this does not apply that's why it's properly translated decrees in our day like for the commerce prayed and often the brothers do own decisions will be made not just by the governing body but branch committees this is a theocratic arrangement Jehovah's blessing the faithful slave and you keep in mind we've made this point but keep your place here in X 16 but look again at Matthew 24 and we've made this point in the past and verse 45 when the question was raised and now it's been answered and heard a twenty-four hours 45 who really is the faithful and discreet slave Cingular women's master appointed over his domestics to give them their food at the property time so this is obvious that this slave is a composite slave the decisions that are made by the faithful slave today are made collectively how one man's making these decisions these decisions if you wanna call him a decree made collectively so when that direction comes out to branch committee members or when it comes out to the congregation's if you want your home his blessing on you as an individual ur family certainly elder congregation at the best to just ask your help you understand it but obey the decision see that's the same things going to happen today happen in the first century notice in verse four in five acts 16 as you to keep your place there so when circuit overseers visit and they've brought information from the faithful slave when branch committee members meet to discuss things and go by the guidelines will what's the results according to various five then see when these are obeyed then indeed you're going to be made firm in the faith congregations will increase branch territories will increase day-by-day why because as we mentioned beginning Java blesses obedience this is a theocracy ruled by God not a collection of man-made decisions this is governed from

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Elders, oh my God what a bunch of losers!

by Crazyguy in

ok i don't mean to put all of them into just one box so to speak, their are some that are smart successful etc.

but my god most of them are just wasted space, ignorant, no drive, horrible jobs, make nothing for income and the only thing in life they have going for them is this title.

no wonder so many will not wake up and hold on to this stupid cult, it's all they have.

konceptual99

I know from my own experience that sometimes even the most intelligent of people leave their brain at the door when engaging in "spiritual" activities. The culture of deference, obedience and group thinking can override even the most sensible of people.

Most elders are OK people, just trying to do what they think is right. It's not until your mind is freed of the reverting to type when considering WT related matters that you start to see situations for what they really are.

The sad thing is that people can have their lives wrecked by well meaning individuals.

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Why do girls have a hymen?

by JWchange in

if you believe humans evolved, and were not created, why would having a hymen help, especially as no other mammal has one?

if you believe humans were created by {a} god, or intelligent beings with advanced technology, what was the reason for a hymen?

i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this unusual subject, not many people talk about..

konceptual99

Regardless of how you interpret the tone of response to statements about creation, one thing is abundantly clear from reading these type of threads over and over again:

It's almost unheard of for anyone to present a solid argument for creation. You simply do not see anything where someone has researched the arguments and presents reasonable scientific evidence that counters a conclusion for evolution.

So much of what get's presented on here in favour of creation has been discussed to death in readily available and digestible forms through the internet and popular books on evolution. It would be really good if one supporting creation could show they have actually read something about their "point" before turning up here with claims that take 2 minutes to debunk. When it keeps happening over and over again it's no wonder that responses to stupid arguments may be terse.

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Reasons for Stagnation in Growth. AKA YearBook Numbers!

by ttdtt in

so why has the growth flatlined?

why is less time spent in the ministry?

why have aux pios droped by 1/3rd?.

konceptual99

- Aux Pioneers. I am sure the high number last year is simply a spike due to the campaigns.

Overall I don't think the flat line is particularly due to what the WTS has done. I think it's actually two fold.

1 - R&F getting tired. Less enthusiasm. Smaller number of people really care about the ministry

2 - The main reason.... the growth outside of the West has slowed. For years the figures have been skewed by regional growth that has hidden the malaise in the West. Now that growth is reducing then the rot becomes far clearer.

To be fair (2) is a hypothesis. I am just hoping I will get some time to process the data and prove it.

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Statistics - Spreadsheets - Opinion

by berrygerry in

so, spent a fair bit of time on the stats.. the 2010-2015 numbers are available here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0bwv5uvzb3-67axpzavk0m0nttfe&usp=sharing.

also there are spreadsheets of: ratios, peak-pubs, and the best is a combo of ratios, peak pubs & average pubs.. you can play with these by "select all" and "sort" according to your preference.. if you would like any other combination, i would try to create it and post it for you.. of interest:.

as has been noted, the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in peak pubs while having 260k baptized.

konceptual99

The peak for baptisms was 375,923 in 1997.

They brought in over 300,000 9/10 years in the 1990s.

The numbers will fluctuate, it's the ratios that I find most interesting. This really illustrates the effectiveness of the preaching work and what an utter waste of time it is. If there was some regional analysis done I think it would show up even more trends regarding growth and contraction in Africa/South America versus the old school Western world WTS enclaves.

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Statistics - Spreadsheets - Opinion

by berrygerry in

so, spent a fair bit of time on the stats.. the 2010-2015 numbers are available here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0bwv5uvzb3-67axpzavk0m0nttfe&usp=sharing.

also there are spreadsheets of: ratios, peak-pubs, and the best is a combo of ratios, peak pubs & average pubs.. you can play with these by "select all" and "sort" according to your preference.. if you would like any other combination, i would try to create it and post it for you.. of interest:.

as has been noted, the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in peak pubs while having 260k baptized.

konceptual99

erm... I mean "Britain" with the WT borders....

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Statistics - Spreadsheets - Opinion

by berrygerry in

so, spent a fair bit of time on the stats.. the 2010-2015 numbers are available here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0bwv5uvzb3-67axpzavk0m0nttfe&usp=sharing.

also there are spreadsheets of: ratios, peak-pubs, and the best is a combo of ratios, peak pubs & average pubs.. you can play with these by "select all" and "sort" according to your preference.. if you would like any other combination, i would try to create it and post it for you.. of interest:.

as has been noted, the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in peak pubs while having 260k baptized.

konceptual99

This is for the UK

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Statistics - Spreadsheets - Opinion

by berrygerry in

so, spent a fair bit of time on the stats.. the 2010-2015 numbers are available here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0bwv5uvzb3-67axpzavk0m0nttfe&usp=sharing.

also there are spreadsheets of: ratios, peak-pubs, and the best is a combo of ratios, peak pubs & average pubs.. you can play with these by "select all" and "sort" according to your preference.. if you would like any other combination, i would try to create it and post it for you.. of interest:.

as has been noted, the biggest standout of 2015 is the increase of only 18k in peak pubs while having 260k baptized.

konceptual99

Here are some more....