How many people were at the CA? What's the per head cost? at the Surrey Assembly hall in the UK, most assemblies are in the 6-700 attendees mark. Costs, as I recall, are IRO £5-6000, around £8-10 per head. The donations are around double the operating costs according to the accounts on the charity commission website last time I checked.
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One Day Assembly Costs How Much, WTF?
by NoMoreHustle inthe recent circuit assembly day cost get this... $17,0000 in an assembly hall that they own!
this was announced during the assmbly at the 3/4 mark of days activities.
after he said how much the assembly cost, he then proceeded to say that we have recieved $6,000 in donations up to this point of the day.
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Street Work is hard! Take a look.
by Wasanelder Once inremember how we were told to engage people on the street, that standing and holding the magazines was not countable time?
those days are gone.
they have been reduced to the status of those guys on the street who hold huge "little ceaser" pizza signs and "homes for sale".
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konceptual99
Doubt it. The Royal Mail van in the background pins this picture to the UK somewhere.
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JW.ORG signs to be put on all Kingdom Halls! New directive.
by stuckinarut2 inso i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.
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konceptual99
THe one at our hall has arrived. They were working out where to put it yesterday...
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Where can I find a list of speakers for Twickenham this year?
by usualusername injust curious who was selected to speak.
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konceptual99
erm... my recollection...
Sam Herd
Some bloke who sounds and even looks a bit like Charles Hawtrey
Colin Conrady (sp?)
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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konceptual99
Pah, do your research. A quick look in the publications shows God put em in a coma.
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Public defiance against blood transfusions. Will this guy be disfellowshipped?
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ashya-kings-father-says-hell-4256798.
we've been following this story.
how can someone openly defy the governing body and yet avoid being disfellowshipped?
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konceptual99
(Off topic: DA is exactly the same as DF. We should not treat them as if they are different when they are not, imo. That is just playing into the Org's word games that it uses to cover up its crimes in the minds of its people and the public.)
I agree that the effect is the same and the whole DA thing is word games. I only raise the difference in this case from the perspective of reality of what could *possibly* happen in the case of a parent sanctioning a BT for a child.
I also agree that nothing will happen to this chap should it turn out that he really is talking about BT.
I don't agree that Witnesses think having a BT is a conscience matter. Refusing blood is still core to Witness mentality. If they were asked to comment publically then they might revert to WT double speak but that is not what they really think. Same as double speak on shunning DF'ed ones.
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Public defiance against blood transfusions. Will this guy be disfellowshipped?
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ashya-kings-father-says-hell-4256798.
we've been following this story.
how can someone openly defy the governing body and yet avoid being disfellowshipped?
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I say again, it is not 100% clear to me that he is categorically referring to BT. He is not quoted as that. The Mirror, as a tabloid, have sensationalised what he is quoted as saying. Of course, I don't know his mind so he could full well be referring to BT or including BT in general "you do what you have to" type statements. The point is that it could well be a 2+2=5 misapplication by The Mirror.
Don't forget as well that the family have undergone a public and unusual situation. He could equally have been referring to the actions they took and indicating that these were nothing to do with their religious beliefs. Again, the article is not clear on the context of the statement.
Regardless...
You cannot be disfellowshipped for have a BT. You are viewed, if you are unrepentant, as have disassociated yourself by your actions. I have to say I am not 100% sure what the situation is for a parent who allows a child to have a BT but I know that there are cases of tacit approval for indicating that the authorities make the child a ward of court (or local equivilent) thus dissolving the parents of the responsibility.
Of course, one can be disfellowshipped for "brazen conduct" and if one was to keep repeating opposition to the blood teaching then they would likely face a JC.
I suspect in this case, the elders will keep well away from the subject until the fate of the child and publicity has died down. Someone will then have a quiet word to double check the circumstances and put any contentiousness down to "stress". As others have mentioned, the WTS is not keen to have it's policy over blood and children raked up in the national press.
Someone discreetly lift up the carpet please...
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In my original post it says a parent can be DFed for allowing a child to have a BT. I meant "cannot".
If a parent was to be DFed after such an incident it would almost certainly be along the lines of "brazen conduct" over a vary vocal and critical attitude about it.
I am 99% sure a parent would not be viewed as DAed
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Public defiance against blood transfusions. Will this guy be disfellowshipped?
by kneehighmiah inhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ashya-kings-father-says-hell-4256798.
we've been following this story.
how can someone openly defy the governing body and yet avoid being disfellowshipped?
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konceptual99
Firstly from how he is quoted it's not clear that he explicitly said he would allow his son to have a transfusion.
Secondly, the Mirror is hardly noted for the varacity of it's reporting.
Thirdly, you can be disfellowshipped for allowing your child to have a transfusion. Nor can you be disfellowshipped for saying you might do something (Although I am sure somewhere someone will have been!)
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The More I Think, The More I Lose Faith In BIBLE!!
by NoMoreHustle insitting through this weeks wt study.
paragraph came up about how "a fire came out from jah & consumed (korah and) the 250 men offering the incense".
i said to myself this supposedly happened couple of thousand years ago.
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konceptual99
Exactly what I found. Developing some critical thinking skills and losing the cognotive dissonance took me from MS with no major issues to virtual atheist in 6 months.
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Well, IT HAS BEGUN. See the future of the WTBTS in print.
by DATA-DOG ini hate to read the wt, but i skimmed the july 15 study edition.
i found many examples of propaganda, of course, but a couple things really stood out.
1) the future of the preaching work.
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konceptual99
The trick, oubliette, is the JW app. You can download several of the videoa. You have offline access to loads of content. Not to mention downloading publications in iBooks. Did you know an emailed publication counts as a placement?