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  Every Country and Land... Except Oman

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  so the other day someone asked me what use was it to make the list of countries in which there have been reports.... well... to know that, as far as i can tell, there has never been preaching done in oman.. it has never appeared in any report, and the reports go back to 1926!.

  all other countries and lands have appeared, but not oman.. so there... first useful fact about the watchtower that we can get from 90 years of data..

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  I have a friend, an XJW, who works in Oman. There are JWs there and they are active among the expat community.
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  How Do JWs Reconcile Contradictions Between Mt. and Lk. and Their Birth Stories?

  by Saename in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anybody know how jehovah's witnesses reconcile the contradictions between the stories of jesus' birth as found in matthew and luke?

  when i was a jehovah's witness, i wasn't even aware of this contradiction; i simply thought that all of it happen—namely that there was a census (luke 2) and the slaughter of the innocents (matthew 2) simultaneously.

  but at the time i didn't know that the census took place in 6 ce and that herod the great died in 4 bce, thus placing those birth stories 10 years apart in time.

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  It goes like this ... young unmarried JW girl, Mary, falls pregnant. Elder Matthew and Elder John, after consulting with Elder Mark, conduct initial judicial investigation.

  Young unmarried JW girl, Mary, denies having sex with her fiance, Joseph, who himself denies having sex with Mary.

  The elders convene and offer a prayer to jehovah for guidance so as to remove the unknown fornicator from the congregation.

  A short time later jehovah comes clean and says "It was me. I got Mary pregnant even though she was engaged to Joseph at the time. I wanted a son."

  The body of elders ring the Watchtower legal department to report the rape of Joseph's fiancee.

  Watchtower legal ask "Were there two witnesses?" The elders reply "Well jehovah admitted to impregnating the fiance of Joseph."

  Watchtower legal replies "Hmmm. Considering that Mary has denied committing fornication, then no sin has been committed as there are no two, or more, credible witnesses."

  As for Elder Luke, he's not credible as he was never there nor part of the judicial committee.

  Problem solved. And the rest is history...

  By the way, under the Mosaic law the punishment for getting Mary pregnant, while engaged to Joseph, was death. Remember, Joseph, after finding out that Mary was pregnant, went away to get a secret divorce.
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  Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

  are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

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  If there was it would have to do with financially supporting the Christian religion of your choice.
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  How to reply when someone asks about your spiritual health

  by RodrigoGuerreiro in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first of all, sorry if i cannot correctly express the original expression used in my native language to ask for the "spiritual condition".. a few years ago some member of the family asks my wife directly how is her "spiritual health" (for me it's one of the many strange vocabulary used by jw like "the slave says...").

  she was catched by surprise with the direct question and says that everything is ok... and luckily someone call them for lunch.. my question is: do you have any good answers for that question?

  you can be ironic/use some humor because the question is a little bit anecdotical .

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  Q: How's your spiritual health?

  A: Not too good. I'm suffering from a severe case of diarrhea and stomach cramps. Must have been some of that food that was served at the recent regional convention.
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  “I feel as if Jehovah were talking to me right in my room when I listen to members of the Governing Body and their helpers,” says Agatha, a circuit overseer’s wife in Ghana.

  
  
  
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  blondie: I wonder what happens when it gets nearer to 50,000..........then 100,000, then 150,000....

  I wonder what happens when it gets to 144,000.
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  2017 Yearbook released

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on reddit:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

  overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).

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  USA had an increase of 2,945.

  I wonder if that number is the same amount of JWs that were called back to the USA after the branch they were serving in was shut down and sold off. Seems about the right number and would explain the slight increase.
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  6 New Kingdom Halls Built In The US This Year

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on our local needs part tonight, the elder (on the local ldc), conducting the part, said he just got back from a meeting in memphis tn with members from the us branch rdc conducting the meeting.

  they mentioned that only 6 new kingdom halls and 2 major re-models were completed in 2016.

  "it may seem like a small accomplishment, considering under the old rbc arrangement there was some 700 projects on the average each year being done", "but, this is going 5-10 years of training to kick this new program into optima production".

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  I wonder if that number 6 includes the kingdom hall built at the new headquarters. I can't imagine the JW elite class travelling further than is necessary.
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  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

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  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

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  I asked my contact at the UN when they were going to turn on religion. He replied: "We don't know, but soon, very soon. At the present time the UN Counsel does not know whether they or someone else are the wild beast, the harlot, the king of the north, the king of the south, the disgusting thing, the Assyrian, Gog, Magog, or even an overlapping generation of leaders. The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses keep changing their doctrinal teachings and interpretations on the last days. We are ready to declare 'peace and security' and to fulfill all the Bible prophecies but the Jehovah's Witnesses keep limping upon two differing opinions. Do they want the end to come or not? If they would only give us the go ahead then we can turn on religion and solve all of mankind's problems. Perhaps the light will get brighter and finally we can all get an answer and bring about true peace. We got excited with the bunker video even going so far as lending the Watchtower our special forces team for the production shoot but nothing happened. It was another let down. If the Governing Body don't make up their mind soon, very soon, then the UN will eventually turn on them."
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  jwleaks

  I had the joy of discussing evolution with two JWs last year. They did not know who I was. I took the angle of defending evolution.

  One of the JWs said to me "there is no proof that one animal evolved into another animal. If apes evolved into humans then how come we still have apes?"

  I laughed to myself as I replied: "There is proof and it involves monkeys. One generation of primates, or monkeys, overlapped another generation of primates, or monkeys. Even though they overlap it is still the one evolutionary generation, the one species, an overlapping generation ... [pause] ... of monkeys. It was about 50 years ago that evolutionists developed the overlapping generation ... [pause] ... of monkeys to primates to mankind to help explain to religionists who could not grasp the truth about the truth. Since that time the overlapping generation has been used by countless numbers of individuals in an attempt to irrationally explain their teachings when logic and records simply don't exist or work. Surely you've heard of the application of the overlapping generation and how it applies to monkeys? One monkeys life overlaps with another monkeys life but they are still the same monkeys. They're an overlapping generation. You must be familiar with the overlapping generation ... [long uncomfortable pause] ... of the monkeys to mankind illustration?"

  The look they gave each other was priceless. I had to control every nerve in my body to prevent myself from breaking down in laughter.

  
  

  The overlapping generation