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  Article: Are There Contradictions in the Bible?

  by ttdtt in

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  2. beliefs

  when online looking at the recent wt there was a link to this..https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/are-there-contradictions-in-the-bible/.

  here are the "big" ones they disproved - though not really:).

  if god rested on the seventh day, how has he continued working?where did jesus heal the blind man?will the earth be destroyed?in capernaum, who brought the centurion’s request to jesus?do we all sin?is jesus equal to god or lesser than god?.

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  You cannot even get to the end of the first page of the Bible without glaring contradictions which completely disprove that God is the author of the Bible. These contradictions can be established as fact today by our understanding of science and nature.

  Genesis 1:14-19 clearly states that God made the stars, the sun and the moon on the fourth day.

  Genesis 1:9-13 clearly states that God brought forth vegetation and trees on the third day.

  Genesis 1:3-5 alludes to God creating light and darkness on the first day but this does does not refer to the stars nor the sun or the moon as these are clearly referred to on the fourth day.

  Therefore vegetation and trees existed on Earth before both the sun and moon were created which is not possible.

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwt/E/2013/1/1#study=discover
  

  Genesis

  1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.+

  2 Now the earth was formless and desolate,* and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep,*+ and God’s active force*+ was moving about over the surface of the waters.+

  3 And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light.+ 4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.+ And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.

  6 Then God said: “Let there be an expanse+ between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.”+ 7 Then God went on to make the expanse and divided the waters beneath the expanse from the waters above the expanse.+ And it was so. 8 God called the expanse Heaven.*And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

  9 Then God said: “Let the waters under the heavens be collected together into one place, and let the dry land appear.”+ And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth,+ but the collecting of the waters, he called Seas.+ And God saw that it was good.+ 11 Then God said: “Let the earth cause grass to sprout, seed-bearing plants and fruit trees according to their kinds, yielding fruit along with seed on the earth.” And it was so. 12 And the earth began to produce grass, seed-bearing plants+ and trees yielding fruit along with seed, according to their kinds. Then God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

  14 Then God said: “Let there be luminaries*+ in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night,+ and they will serve as signs for seasons and for days and years.+ 15 They will serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God went on to make the two great luminaries, the greater luminary for dominating the day+ and the lesser luminary for dominating the night, and also the stars.+17 Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth18 and to dominate by day and by night and to make a division between the light and the darkness.+ Then God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
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  JW Carts Cause Thousands to Start Studying!!!

  by Drifting Away in

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  2. friends

  i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.

  anyone have any idea?

  if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.

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  There's an xjw in Australia who everytime he sees a JW trolley cart goes up and an introduces himself as a newly baptized brother who got "The Truth" as a result of trolley preaching. After the excitement and hugs he tells them that what made him curious is that they were always silently standing by the trolley cart waiting. He explains that this is what helped him to realize they had "The Truth" and he was won over without a word just like the Bible said would happen. He tells them that had they approached him or made contact with him he would have ignored them and passed on.

  The lesson he teaches all JW trolley preachers is:

  1. Do not initiate conversations

  2. Do not make eye contact

  3. Stand away from the trolley cart

  4. Let the angels, who ultimately have the commission to preach, draw like minded ones to the "waters of truth"

  5. Do not offer any literature (books or magazines) but rather let the passerby raise the subject

  6. It is more effective than door knocking

  Net result: Zero conversion rate but more mindless JW Watchtower zombies standing still, talking to no one, making no placements, waiting for the end of the world while sipping from a coffee cup in their hand.
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  Do they know what 7.5 billion dead bodies look like?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  in their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.

  "let the eye feel no sorrow".

  sick bastards..

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  JeffT - According to Wikipedia the destruction of one gram of antimatter and one gram of regular matter equals about 3 Hiroshima bombs. The average weight of a human is 62000 grams. I'm guessing no one in the writing department thought about that when they wrote that article.

  It's overlapping antimatter, ie. 1 gram of antimatter overlaps with another gram of antimatter, which overlaps with another gram of antimatter, and so on, creating only 1 gram of antimatter. The original 1 gram of antimatter will evidently be dropped on apostate christendom. After that, nothing else matters...
  

  https://youtu.be/tAGnKpE4NCI
  
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  Catholic church raised a cry of alarm, every year thousand of Catholics become J.W

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my brother (elder) e-mailed this to my sister(not a jw).

  the francisco pope praises j.w worldwide.

  oh shit, they will have a field day with this.

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  Pope shares a laugh after receiving report on JW trolley preaching. "Nothing to see here Your Holiness. Not even any interest."

  

  
  
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  Chinese Communist Party to commence nationwide crackdown on Christianity including Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  2. friends

  8 october 2016. china's governing communist party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the christian church.. by matthew carney - abc.

  the communist party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.. chinese president xi jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.. the new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the communist party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more chinese.... that means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the communist party first.. there is good reason to be afraid.

  chinese authorities have already started the crackdown in the christian heartland in the southern province of zhejiang.. it's been extensive and brutal.

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  Re: Options 2 and 3

  Mexico vs Malawi

  By Paul Grundy

  Many faithful Jehovah's Witnesses have died obeying the Watchtower stance on neutrality. This article shows the tragedy that occurred when Malawian Witnesses were hypocritically forced to uphold a higher standard than was expected of those in Mexico, or by the Governing Body themselves.

  Religion becomes most culpable when its rules lead to the death of its followers. In ancient times this was as blatant as human sacrifice; in modern times it is subtler, such as forbidding medical treatment. Graphic representation of this in Watchtower history has been the devastating torture and murder of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Malawi during the 1970’s and 1980’s. Most disturbing is that the doctrine enforced in Malawi is misguided and was not applied consistently in different countries.

  When reading Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz, chapter 6 titled “Double Standards” disturbed me more than any other. Here was explained how a Watchtower doctrinal principle that lead to the torture and death of 1000’s of Malawian Witnesses was excused for those in Mexico. Malawian Witnesses suffered unspeakable atrocities due to following the Watchtower’s illogical policy forbidding them to hold a political card in a one party state. During the same period, Witnesses in Mexico were permitted to bribe officials for a Cartilla card in order to escape military service.

  See below link for full article:

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/malawi-mexico-oath-allegiance.php
  
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  Chinese Communist Party to commence nationwide crackdown on Christianity including Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  8 october 2016. china's governing communist party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the christian church.. by matthew carney - abc.

  the communist party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.. chinese president xi jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.. the new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the communist party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more chinese.... that means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the communist party first.. there is good reason to be afraid.

  chinese authorities have already started the crackdown in the christian heartland in the southern province of zhejiang.. it's been extensive and brutal.

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  8 October 2016

  China's governing Communist Party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the Christian Church.

  By Matthew Carney - ABC

  The Communist Party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise Christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.

  Chinese President Xi Jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "Chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.

  The new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the Communist Party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more Chinese...

  That means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the Communist Party first.

  There is good reason to be afraid. Chinese Authorities have already started the crackdown in the Christian heartland in the southern province of Zhejiang.

  It's been extensive and brutal. In the past two years they have torn down nearly 2000 crosses and in some cases demolished churches.

  Church leaders and their followers have been arrested and imprisoned.

  There's also good reason to why the Communist Party is threatened by the Church.

  Some say there are 100 million Christians in China — that's more than Communist Party members.

  The Chinese Government admits there are about 25 million Christians registered at state-run churches where pastors are appointed by the state and theology approved by the governments Religious Affairs Bureau.

  ABC http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-08/chinese-communist-partys-crackdown-on-religion/7912140

  See also:

  New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/world/asia/china-religion-regulations.html

  Which stance will the governing body of jehovah's witnesses take:

  Option 1: abandon Chinese JWs (eg. By publicly stating it's a personal decision and then privately stating the opposite)

  Option 2: the Mexico approach

  Option 3: the Malawi approach

  Option 4: new light

  Option 5: have all the JWs around the world write to the PRC Communist leaders telling them to leave the JWs alone or jehovah will remove them (as they did to Hitler and the Nazi Party)

  Option 6: Use this as 'proof' the JWs are the true religion because of the persecution (never mind the fact that there are 40-70 million other so-called Christians in China)

  Option 7: Order Chinese take-out delivered to their boardroom and discuss whether the changshan dress, as worn by Chinese males, is suitable for Christians considering it is the male equivelent of the female cheongsam dress.
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  An ANALYSIS of Watch Tower of Britain’s last (January 2013) Child Safeguarding Policy by Barbara Anderson

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  an analysis of watch tower of britain’s last (january 2013) child safeguarding policy by barbara anderson.

  last year, i was asked to review watch tower of britain’s child safeguarding policy and its implementation.

  what i discovered was depressing and disappointing especially because the policy contained just a single statement (#18) directing elder/trustees on how to protect children in their congregations from avoidable harm - they were to restrict a repentant abuser “…from being alone in the company of children.” the policy did not explain what procedures to follow to assure that abusers would obey that rule.

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  Great work Barbara.
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  What is the Watchtower view on donating to charity?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've always had the impression that they frowned upon it, but never quite knew for sure.....

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  There's a full list here of all non christian and non Watchtower charities that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has approved for JWs to donate to:

  https://www.jw.org/en/approved-non-christian-charities
  
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  Hourly vs Salary which is better?

  by hoser in

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  i am hourly.

  what are the pros and cons of hourly or salary?.

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  GrreatTeacher: Then, they throw in parent conference days which are, bewilderingly...

  A totally true story that happened two weeks ago. I laughed my head off when told the story.

  A friend of mine (xjw) just attended parents/teachers conference night with his 15 year old son (also an xjw). Young female teacher raises with the father that his 15 year son should be more sociable with the other boys in the class rather than sit with the girls all the time.
  

  Father turns to son: Is this true?

  15 year old son: Yes.

  Father turns to young female teacher: Well I can explain, that's because my son is a man whore.

  15 year old son (to teacher): I am.
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  Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.

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  It reminds me of two fleas fighting over the same dog ... or god in this case. So Steven Hassan has 'enemies', good! This means he stood up for someone somewhere in his life. Should he charge fees? Yes, especially considering there is not one single god out there that allows you to worship him or her for free.