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  How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

  by dogon in

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  i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

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  Reverse psychology

  SAY TO A JW: Adam was created in 4026 BCE. If we count forward 6000 years, recognizing there is no Zero Year, this brings us to 1975 CE. How come Jehovah's Witnesses didn't mark this year at all?
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  Two Jehovah's Witnesses on their way to a Kingdom Hall stop for a hitch hiker

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. friends

  http://globalnews.ca/news/2143851/canadian-hitchhiking-robot-destroyed-on-trip-across-us/.

  a hitch hiking robot, two jehovah's witnesses on their way to a kingdom hall.

  .. where could it all end?.

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  It wasn’t every day an axe weilding man could be observed poised on the side of the roadway with his thumb jerked outward in the international signal of the hitchhiker.

  Rounding the bend in the highway, Melvin Arbuckle’s lip curled like a dumbstruck Elvis impersonator as he caught first sight of the hitchhiker.

  Beside him, his wife Thelma peered over the top of her Dollar Store sunglasses. The two Jehovah’s Witnesses spotted the hitchhiker in transit to their local Kingdom Hall.

  The black 2003 Camry slowed to the edge of the Interstate and halted parallel to the axe weilding man. Melvin and Thelma smiled in delight. At least today, they thought, we get to start our field service time before we meet up with the group at the hall.

  The funeral service for Marvin and Thelma was held a week later in their beloved Kingdom Hall. The speaker from Bethel spoke about the resurrection hope ...

  
  
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  Tullamore DEW

  by JRK in

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  i have settled in with a nice bottle of tullamore dew.

  i have previously never tried any irish whiskeys other than jameson's.

  i was wondering if there are any other irish whiskeys i should try.

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  Baileys by Gilbys of Ireland with plenty of ice. It's a whiskey and cream liquor if you like something different.
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  Jehovah loves "even rounded numbers" or could this be a way to disprove the inspiration of the Bible?

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
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  while i am not able to recall them all at this time, i remember so many instances that when a number was quoted in the bible, especially large numbers, they were all "rounded up" to the nearest hundred or thousand.

  for instance the angel killed 185,000 syrians, not 184,879. sampson killed a thousand men with the jawbone of an ass, not 961. and on and on on the even rounded numbers.

  i would guess that it could be agues that these numbers were correct but is that realistic?

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  Hyperbole.
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  Seeing Cognitive Dissonance First Hand And The Stress It Causes

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so a little update on my situation.

  me and my wife have spoken more about what i've been thinking lately.

  although, i didn't go as far as to say that i no longer believe.

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  I love the Book of Genesis. The first chapter completely disproves that God is the author of the Bible.

  Genesis 1:14-19 clearly states that God made the stars, the sun and the moon on the fourth day.

  Genesis 1:9-13 clearly states that God brought forth vegetation and trees on the third day.

  Genesis 1:3-5 alludes to God creating light and darkness on the first day but this does does not refer to the stars nor the sun or the moon as these are clearly referred to on the fourth day.

  Therefore vegetation and trees existed on Earth before both the sun and moon were created which is not possible.
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  Brother & Sister-in-Law Return to Kingdom Hall After Two Decades, Quickly Get Stumbled

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was a mild surprise, learning that a brother and sister-in-law had began re-associating with jehovah's witnesses after at least 25 years of being away.

  the couple, of hispanic ethnicity, are in their early 60's, with their five children all grown and independent.

  the family had been considered nominal jws, infrequently attending meetings, rarely in field service, but using the annual convention as their family vacation.

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  At the couple's second or third Kingdom Hall meeting since coming back to the organization, our brother-in-law learned about a special work day at the Kingdom Hall the following Saturday, to mow grass and trim bushes. He showed up on Saturday ready for work, but was informed that those duties could only be performed by approved JWs "in good standing."

  Many years ago in my area the Watchtower had to undertake safety training for volunteers on a new kingdom hall building site. Statutory requirements were that all the elders and brothers supervising and working on the site must undergo a regulatory safety briefing carried out by a licensed safety officer. The Watchtower did not have one. A sister in the area advised the Watchtower that she was licensed and could train the elders and brothers and issue them their certificates at no cost to the Watchtower.

  The Watchtower rejected the offer as they could never submit to a lowly 'sister' instructing elders, circuit overseers, bethelites, district overseer, ministerial servants and brothers.

  Problem solved. The Watchtower contacted the regulatory body and asked them to organize a training program at a substantial cost per head.

  The regulatory body arranged for a qualified instructor and teacher to conduct the course. They looked at their list of licensed instructors in the area and sent the most qualified.

  Imagine the surprise for all these brothers assembled at a local kingdom hall when the instructor and teacher that was sent was the actual sister, who they had to pay $500 fees for plus $25 per head instruction.

  Watchtower mentality will never change.

  At a kingdom hall cleaning I was asked to clean the toilets. I replied to the elder "I'm sorry I can't clean the dirty toilets. I'm not spiritually qualified."

  The following suggestion I have mentioned to many young brothers over the years on how to get out of kingdom hall or assembly hall cleaning or volunteer work at conventions: "Sorry brother I can't help with the cleaning as I'm on restrictions."
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  JW's opinions on bunker video

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the so called bunker video isn't just getting attention here but among jws as well.

  i've heard a fair share of cracks, some half joking half serious about the prospect of the video playing out in real life .

  but something else i've heard is that the video was meant to be figurative, an illustration representing the 'interior rooms' prophecy..

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  the video was meant to be figurative

  When JWs cannot face the reality of their teachings it all becomes 'figurative' and cognitive dissonance kicks in. Go figure!

  ME (to JW trolley babysitter last week): How many years ago was it that Jesus said the end was close for true Christians?

  JW: Um...
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  What novels have you been reading recently? Recommend any?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i've always been a bit of a reader - but only reading about topics i find interesting, e.g.

  natural history, dinosaurs, etc.. recently i've started to select, buy and read novels.. this year i've bought and read frankenstein (mary shelly), dracula (bram stoker), the hound of the baskervilles (a. conan doyle), 'salem's lot (stephen king), jurassic park (michael crichton) and the firm (john grisham).. i have an inclination towards horrors and thrillers.. what fiction have you been reading?.

  could you recommend anything?.

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  "The Stand" by Stephen King, but make sure you get the extended version. As an XJW you will thoroughly enjoy this book on a level that no other reader could enjoy and that even Mr King could not have anticipated.

  The blurb from the back of my copy of the book, including the dot dot dots ...

  "First came the days of the plague ... Then came the dreams... Dark dreams that warned of the coming of the dark man. The apostate of death, his worn-down heels tramping the night roads. The warlord of the charnel house and Prince of Evil. His time is at hand. His empire grows in the west and the Apocalypse looms."
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  Any Kingdom Halls not displaying the JW.ORG sign?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've only noticed one when we're on hwy 79, north of our camden, ar, usa.

  it is the relatively new kh in fordyce, ar, on that main highway.

  is this the rule rather than the exception?.

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  I've only noticed one when we're on Hwy 79, north of our Camden, AR, USA. It is the relatively new KH in Fordyce, AR, on that main highway.

  Maybe the Watch Tower pre-sold the kingdom hall to investors from under the congregation prior to completion and their saving a few extra dollars by not wasting money on a needless sign.
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  Don't have sexual fantasies! Today's watchtower...

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower today says not to think of sex, or to have sexual fantasies.

  i'm just wondering... how many people in the hall hearing this watchtower today would be having sexual fantasies?

  sitting there thinking about sister hottie or brother hunky ?.

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  Elder swapping