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  The goal in all this 1918/1919 change?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
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  as some have recently posted here, there does seem to be a shift going on in their self-interpretation(s) of what happened in 1918 and 1919. if we can look past all the details that emphasize the poor thinking and poor wording (or contradictions/just plain craziness/insignificance) of their message, something bigger seems to be afoot.

  they appear to be attempting to redefine the meanings for some "prophetic" scriptures in light of themselves.

  1. they are trying to somehow fill the void they have themselves created from their rejecting freddie franz's (ff) type–anti-type postulations.

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  JW Broadcasting: 1919 and Jesus' Illustration of the Loaves.

  
  

  BROTHER DAVID SPLANE: "In the gospel accounts of the loaves and fishes Jesus was prophetically illustrating that a loaf of bread can be reused to feed a multitude of generations. Likewise today, faithful Christians may not fully understand how one generation overlaps another generation while still being the same generation...

  
  

  "Each overlapping generation can be likened to overlapping slices of a loaf of bread. Even though they overlap they are still one loaf. Clearly Jesus understood what he himself meant when he fed a multitude of generations from a single loaf. Should we be discouraged if we are not part of the first slice? Not if we desire everlasting life.

  "For many years the "faithful slave" had pointed to the year 1919 as their appointment by the Master, Jesus. The year 1919 can be likened to the crust slice in our loaf of bread illustration. Do we grasp the modern-day meaning of Jesus' prophetic illustration, or are we like that little bit of leaven that spoils the whole lump.

  "Hence we should not be discouraged when trying to understand the deep things of God. Rather, we should have complete trust in "the faithful and discreet slave" whom Jesus appointed in 1919 to feed the many generations from one loaf. One way we can show our trust is by accepting all things the "slave" provides for us including this loaf of sliced bread which represents 1919."
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

  by wifibandit in

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  january 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.

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  Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (lan-vire-pool-guin-gith-go-ger-u-queern-drob-ooth-clandus-ilio-gogo-goch) is a Welsh word which translates roughly as "St Mary's Church in the Hollow of the White Hazel near a Rapid Whirlpool and the Church of St. Tysilio near the Red Cave".
  

  ... by comparison ...

  Weewullpullootfymwynderyillchwybyrgogohwallanswllitfyraprophet (we-will-pull-out-from-under-your-platform-your-kingdom-hall-and-sell-it-for-a-profit) is a Watchtower word which translates roughly as "screw you publishers this hall is dedicated funds now belonging to the Watchtower".
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  January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  january 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.

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  At last Watchtower finally found a theocratic purpose for the luxury river front property they purchased in Wales (see description and photos below) ... pre-recording a talk in Welsh some three years later.

  And there were sceptics who believed Watchtower was only a real estate company and had no need to purchase a luxury river front property for translation services.

  THE PROPERTY

  Superbly positioned above The Menai Strait with direct water access, Y Gwylain has been impressively developed to a high standard. The property comprises of entrance hallway, reception hallway, impressive open plan 'live in kitchen/family room', lounge, sitting room, games room, 2 studies, utility, cloakroom, shower room, 5 double bedrooms, four en-suites and a family bathroom. The property benefits from having gas central heating, double glazing, garage, established landscaped gardens with decked areas and pond. The property enjoys fantastic sea view of The Menai Strait, The Menai Suspension Bridge and across to Anglesey.
  

  
  

  
  
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  Bill introduced to remove the US from all participation in the UN

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently there was a bill introduced to congress asking for the removal of the us from the participation on the un.. you can read about it here:https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/textwhat do you think jw's will make out of this?.

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  JW: Oooh, you can see the end is so close. The bible prophesied that in the end they will be pushing and shoving."

  PATRON IN STARBUCKS: "Shove it!"

  JW: "Oooh, you can see the end is so close. The bible prophesied that in the end we will be objects of hatred by all the nations."
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  So, I watched "The Founder" today, and had a minor Revelation

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the movie's story, ray kroc, the man who is in charge of franchising mcdonalds restaurants, is finding himself in a situation where he is doing gangbusters at creating the stores, but is going broke on his contract.

  he gets help from another fast food executive who examines his books.one aspect of the business jumps out.

  the stores need land to operate on, and that money is going to the land-owners who lease the land to the stores.

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  Spiritual indigestion.
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  Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
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  gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.

  just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.

  the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.

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  Gorbatchov, had you been at the kingdom hall the week before you would have heard the reminder from the governing body - which was also pinned to the notice board - informing all who attend to leave their brains and thinking skills at home.
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  So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

  by Simon in

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  it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

  i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

  ... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

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  They're marching against the results of the presidential erection.
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  The Trump Era commences

  by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

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  So former US presidents are invited, and expected, to attend each subsequent presidential inauguration, unless they are too ill, i.e. Bush seniors.

  Imagine the invite for former president Clinton.

  45TH PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATION

  Former president, Bill Clinton, plus one.

  
  

  
  
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  HOUSE, M.D., Jehovah's Witnesses, and '75

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. humour

  season 7, episode 18: "the dig".

  house picks up "thirteen" -- dr. remy hadley -- upon her release from prison.

  she asks him to take her to a certain location in order to take care of a personal matter.

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  From Scrubs:

  https://youtu.be/LTEM5Un4jYc
  
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  Thoughts on African Americans and Slavery

  by Simon in

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  let's start by saying that slavery is of course a terrible thing, one of the worst crimes imaginable, and that "slavery" rarely implies good treatment, anything noble or defensible.

  nowadays, even god doesn't escape judgement from our enlightened views with passages about slavery in the bible usually glossed over because they are shameful.. but not all slavery was equal.. because of the media, movie industry, racial tensions in the us regularly shown on the news and our taught history, i think most people's knowledge and idea of slavery is that of the north atlantic slave trade where white people took africans to work in cotton fields.

  this idea is probably also re-enforced because the largest group of descendents of slaves we see today are african americans (usually in the us or places they subsequently migrated to).. but it's incomplete.. it's only when you look into it more that you discover that there was much more to the slave trade than that, otherwise it would have been just called "the slave trade" and not "the north atlantic slave trade".. some 12.5 million slaves were taken from africa to the us with just under 11 million surviving the trip so it obviously took a terrible toll immediately, even before any maltreatment once they landed in the americas where conditions and treatment were truly awful.

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  "It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the Black race. Certain it is that when Noah said, "Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren," he pictured the future of the Colored race. They have been and are a race of servants ... There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world."
  

  - Official teaching of the Watch Tower Society (aka Jehovah's Witnesses). The Golden Age magazine (now known as Awake!), July 24, 1929, p. 702.