Aude - QUESTION: Regarding the "1006 allegations of child sex abuse made against church members since 1950"... Is this just for Australia? or is this figure Worldwide?
Does anyone know?
Only Australia.
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Update on Royal Commission
by umbertoecho inpaedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.
1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.
counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.
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Media headline:Jehovah's Witnesses did not report 1006 alleged sex abusers to police, royal commission told
by fulltimestudent incheck it for yourself: .
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.
not a good look!.
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Media headline:Jehovah's Witnesses did not report 1006 alleged sex abusers to police, royal commission told
by fulltimestudent incheck it for yourself: .
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-report-1006-alleged-sex-abusers-to-police-royal-commission-told-20150727-gil1u7.
not a good look!.
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Mr Stewart said, "the only way to Finally end child abuse is to, as they put it, ' embrace
God's kingdom under Christ' and 'love God with all your heart and your neighbor
as yourself, so as to be saved when the end comes".
That's bat shit crazy...Mr Anus Stewart SC is counsel assisting the Child Abuse Royal Commission. Technically speaking he is going after the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Society. He is quoting claims made by the JW leaders. It's possible that Stwert SC is making these quotes because he too finds them "bat shit crazy".
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A MODERN FICTION: the lie which became a GOVERNING BODY
by TerryWalstrom insafe to say, if you walked up to any of the 8 million jehovah's witnesses on earth today and told them the.
governing body was a fiction, not only would they refuse to believe you--they'd consider you their immediate enemy!.
what if i told you jw's embrace a mental construct which is at odds with history?.
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Great article Terry.
Meanwhile, back at the Watchtower... Bible 'truths' are revealed one-step-at-a-time.
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Today's daily text made me laugh!
by paradisebeauty inanointed christians knew that 1914 would mark a turning point regarding divine rulership.
as soon as they discerned the fulfillment of bible prophecy, they boldly declared to others that gods rule had begun.
today, with so much evidence that gods kingdom is already established in heaven, why do the majority of people not accept what this means?
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Anointed Christians knew that 1914 would mark a turning point regarding divine rulership. As soon as they discerned the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, they boldly declared to others that God’s rule had begun.
In 1914 the Watchtower was teaching that Jesus had commenced his rulership in heaven in 1874. Also keep in mind they they never knew that Jesus and God had inspected the Watchtower and chosen its corporate leaders as the leaders of a new "revived" religious movement as this inspection and appointment was not due to take place until 1918/1919.
That is why text (and WT) uses the deceptive phrase "as soon as they discerned" which allows for any date from 1914 up to now as the "light gets brighter".
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I see a picture of a 'virgin' Jewish woman, Mary, holding a 'messianic' Jewish child, Jesus, painted by a 'hater' of Jewish people, Adolf Hitler. -
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Did the society official track each member of the 144,000?
by Bob Loblaw inwhen i left witness land in the early 90's, i remember hearing that out of 144,000 anointed members that there were only 8 to 9 thousand left and then the end will come.. i'm suddenly curious.
the jw organization is one that puts emphasis on tracking, i.e., regular meeting attendance, current standing, field service hours, territory tracking, return visits, etc.
therefore, did the society ever try to track each and every member of the 144,000?
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WT, 8/15/2011, p. 22
Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.
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Note the date on the below document (bottom LHS): 3/98 - March 1998. This was the publisher record card that was actually in use by the Governing Body of JW's when the above highlighted statement was made in the August 15, 2011, Watchtower magazine.
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Power blackout during the meeting tonight!
by stuckinarut2 init was so funny!.
the small rented hall our congregation uses had a blackout.
we think there was some construction work next door that caused it.. at least the glow of everyone's tablets and cell phones kept the place illuminated!.
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In my old KH we also had to power go out one night. There were only one light left as an illuminator in the world and only one message to the sheeples...
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RC-Observe the birds and the lilies
by bobld inthe talk was bs.speaker used an example of how god provides some 60 pounds of fish per week to some bird.in that case god does not care about the life of fish.who will provide my daily rations?
can i go to a store and take my food?
can i rely on god in my old age (does not the wbts give the boot to co over 70).
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So the god of the Watchtower is credited with feeding some bird?
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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh
by WildeLover inhttp://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.
i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.
it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.
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jws said...
Ah, Cedars. To take a look at the other side for a moment, Cedars has been using his own reasoning to proclaim the end of the Watchtower since he first arrived on this site years ago. He's a bit of an egomaniac and seems on a personal vandetta to bring down the WT. And thinks he can bring it down. And he's looking for ANY sign that it's crumbling to validate himself. He's like a jilted lover bent on seeing his ex have a bad life for the crime of hurting him.
. . . Cedars aside, people have been predicting the end of the WT for years. Remember, followers of Russell are still around. Bible Students who follow Studies in the Scriptures still exist. So it's not easy to kill a religion or a following. Hell, just look at the Jewish scriptures. People still follow that millennia later.
JWs can and do reinvent themselves. They have an audience of the gullible. Every change becomes a blessing from God with all the spin of Fox News. But we on the outside can see the difference.
I see numbers, like non-associated (atheist/agnostic/no religion) rising 1%/year in America while Christianity decreases 1%/year. Baring some event to sway people back to church, I think those rises and falls pick up in speed. The bigger the atheist voice, the faster people will join it. And that's how I see religions failing in America. Reason. No longer our Christianity vs. yours where we can debate the finer points of scripture. A totally unreceptive public turned off to all forms of proselytizing.
But then again, growth has been stagnant here for years. It's the developing countries where this stuff catches on best. It may be that the JWs of the future are a Central-American based religion that nobody hears much about here.
I don't expect to see it die in my lifetime. Probably not Cedars either.
I invite jws "to take a look at the other side for a moment" . . .
Watchtower has been using their own reasoning to proclaim the end of the World since they first arrived on the scene all those years ago in 1879. They are a bit of an egomaniac and seem on a personal vandetta to bring down the World. And thinks they can bring it down. And Watchtower is looking for ANY sign that it's crumbling to validate themselves. They are like a jilted lover bent on seeing his ex have a bad life for the crime of hurting her.
. . . Watchtower aside, Jehovah's Witnesses have been predicting the end of the World for years. Remember, followers of Russell are still around. Bible Students who follow Studies in the Scriptures still exist. So it's not easy to kill a religion or a following. Hell, just look at the Jewish scriptures. People still follow that millennia later.
JWs can and do reinvent themselves. They have an audience of the gullible. Every change becomes a blessing from God with all the spin of Fox News. But we on the outside can see the difference.
I see numbers, like non-associated (atheist/agnostic/no religion) rising 1%/year in America while Christianity decreases 1%/year. Baring some event to sway people back to church, I think those rises and falls pick up in speed. The bigger the atheist voice, the faster people will join it. And that's how I see religions failing in America. Reason. No longer our Christianity vs. yours where we can debate the finer points of scripture. A totally unreceptive public turned off to all forms of proselytizing.
But then again, growth has been stagnant here for years. It's the developing countries where this stuff catches on best. It may be that the JWs of the future are a Central-American based religion that nobody hears much about here.
I don't expect to see Watchtower die in my lifetime. Probably not in any Jehovah's Witnesses either.
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If Cedars' "egomaniac" comments sound like he is on a "personal vandetta" [sic] and looking "for ANY sign" by "using his own reasoning to proclaim the end" then how much more so the Watchtower's.
Many people have been hurt by the Watchtower and many such ones use their own personal circumstances and experiences in sharing their life-moulded viewpoints with others. And this is my life-moulded viewpoint.
I believe Simon nailed it . . .
The WT is now flush with cash, growing and much slicker with better marketing.
Any prophecy of impending doom is pure wishful thinking.
No sizable religion is going to vanish now. They are easily past the "self sustaining" size and will be here for a long time.
It doesn't matter what we can prove about them - people don't care. No one is in any religion because of logic or "truth".
No truer word uttered.
