Huge Shift in Doctrine?

by Lemonp in

i am not sure why more people aren't talking about this?.

the march 15 study edition of the wt has some major changes!

- all unbiblical "types and antitypes" are now dropped.

Huge Shift in Doctrine?

I think you mispelt the topic title. I read the Watchtower references but could not find the letter "f" anywhere.

:poop:

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

jwleaks

Simon - The new response is to run away, waving your arms screaming "don't kill me, don't kill me, don't kill me !!!"

According to JW theology, Islam, like Catholicism, is a disease run by false teachers under the control of the great apostate Satan.

Running away screaming "don't kill me" would be quite fitting if you applied the following when a householder says "'I'm a Muslim and support the Islamic State".

How can we protect ourselves against false teachers? The Bible tells us exactly what to do. (Read Romans 16:17; 2 John 9-11.) The clear instruction in the Bible is: “Avoid them.” That means that we have to stay away from them. The warning from the Bible is like a warning from a doctor who tells you to avoid a person who has a disease that may spread to others. The doctor knows that if you get this disease, you will die. His warning is clear, and you will do what he says. The Bible says that apostates are mentally diseased and that they use their teachings to make others think like them. (1 Timothy 6:3,4) Jehovah is like that good doctor. He clearly tells us to stay away from false teachers. We must always be determined to follow his warning. - The Watchtower (Simplified), July 15, 2011

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

jwleaks

Quick read on "Rapture". No changes there. But I did find this question:

Will faithful Christians perhaps be taken to heaven secretly, simply disappearing from the earth without dying?

After citing two scriptures they questioned/reasoned:

So death comes before one receives that spiritual body, does it not?

The argument appears to be that the anointed must die before going to heaven, which is what was taught when the Reasoning book was first published.

That teaching has just been changed in the July 15, 2015 issue of the Watchtower Will There Be a 'Rapture' of the Anointed During the Great Tribulation?

15 Does this mean that there will be a “rapture” of the anointed ones? Many in Christendom believe, according to this teaching, that Christians will be bodily caught up from the earth. Then, they expect that Jesus will visibly return to rule the earth. However, the Bible clearly shows that “the sign of the Son of man” will appear in heaven and that Jesus will come “on the clouds of heaven.” (Matt. 24:30) Both of these expressions imply invisibility. Additionally, “flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom.” So those who will be taken to heaven will first need to be “changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.” * (Read 1 Corinthians 15:50-53.) Therefore, while we do not use the term “rapture” here because of its wrong connotation, the remaining faithful anointed will be gathered together in an instant of time.

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

jwleaks

Has anyone studied the entire online version to see if there are any other changes from the published version?

A good place to start would be doctrinal teachings. These are always changing. I'm going to check up on "Rapture".

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

jwleaks

What do Jehovah's Witnesses teach about Islam?

The fear of man will probably cause the JW's to never reprint this article that originally appeared in the Watchtower magazine:

Examining Islamic Teachings - ISLAM'S "JIHAD'S"

In the light of the record made by history, nothing could be more fantastic than to claim that Islam believes only in defensive warfare.

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Did Jehovah's Witnesses dishonestly insert the word "Apostate" in their custom version of the Bible

by Watchtower-Free in

interesting article.

http://doctrinesoffaith.com/more-errors-in-jehovahs-witness-new-world-translation-bible/.

more intentional repeated errors in new world translation bible: a study on apostates.

jwleaks

They did remove the phrase "mentally diseased" from the revised NWT.

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

jwleaks

The online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted the entry under "Conversation Stoppers" for when someone says "I'm a Muslim".

ONLINE Reasoning book

For the record, this is what has been removed:

*** rs pp. 23-24 How You Might Respond to Potential Conversation Stoppers ***

WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, ‘I’M A MUSLIM’

● A few points to have in mind are these: (1) The Koran is their principal “holy book.” Some will agree that the Bible is God’s Word, but they believe that it is superseded by the Koran. (2) They believe that there is only one true God. (3) They say that Jesus was one of the prophets, as was Muhammad, and that Muhammad (570-632 C.E.) was the Comforter foretold by Jesus. They believe Muhammad was the last and most important prophet. (4) They strongly believe that God has no son.

A common ground can sometimes be established in the following ways: (1) You might say: ‘I have come to discuss the Word of God with you. It tells about the problems of life that people like you and me experience and it shows us what the real solution is.’ Then discuss the Kingdom. (2) You could say: ‘I do not believe in Christendom’s Trinity. I worship the one true God, the Creator of heaven and earth.’ (3) ‘Am I right that you believe that Jesus (or Moses) was a prophet? . . . Was he a true prophet? . . . Then what he said was from God and if other teachings do not agree with it, they must be from another source, is that not so?’ Then use statements made by Jesus (or Moses) as a basis for further discussion.

If they make strong assertions concerning their beliefs, it can be beneficial to ask them, tactfully, to show you the point in the Koran, sura (chapter) and verse. (Wait while they search for it.) When they are unable to find it, some give evidence of greater willingness to listen to what you show them in the Bible.

Possible topics for discussion: (1) After laying a foundation, as above, you may be able to point out what God said to Moses about His personal name. (Ex. 3:15; Deut. 6:4, 5) (2) Material in this book under the main headings “Fate” and “Suffering” can be used to help some to see that God is not responsible for the injustice and suffering they experience and that lasting relief will come by means of God’s Kingdom. (3) If you are asked about your view regarding the Comforter, you can point out how Jesus spoke of it, showing that it is not a person and that it would remind his disciples of all the things that Jesus had taught them, rather than introduce a new religion. (John 14:26, KJ, NW; Acts 1:8) (4) If the objection is raised that God cannot have a Son, you might endeavor to reason on the matter. God’s having a Son does not mean that he had sexual relations with a wife. But God is the Creator. Since he gives life to those that he creates, can he not refer to himself as their Father? He speaks of his very first creation as his Son. He calls the angels sons of God, and he refers to Adam as his son. Why? Because he gave them life. How did Mary conceive Jesus? Not by sexual relations with God but, as the Bible says, it was by means of holy spirit, the same active force that God used in creation.—Matt. 3:17; 16:16, 17; Luke 1:35.

The booklet The Time for True Submission to God can be a real aid to sincere Muslims in understanding God’s purpose.

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Graduating college May 14. Update on Getting my GED and going to college thread from 5 years ago.

by noni1974 in

jw
friends

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187163/getting-my-ged-can-go-college.

i started this topic 5 years ago letting everyone know i had decide to get my ged and go to college in hopes of getting an education so that i could have a career instead of just a job.

i wanted fulfillment and a future, not just another job that has no really future in it.

jwleaks

Great news. Congratulations!!!

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“We are not done yet!” – Candace Conti reacts to appeal court decision

by Watchtower-Free in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-are-not-done-yet-candace-reacts-to-appeal-court-decision.

candace conti (pictured in her interview with abc) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision.

as current and former jehovahs witnesses digest the news that watchtowers appeal against the candace conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: we are not done yet.. news spread on monday that the state appeals court in san francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original june 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against watchtower.. the court decided that, though watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile jonathan kendrick in field ministry, a church-sponsored activity, the organization had no duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.. an insightful report by investigative reporter trey bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.. the burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision, the judges wrote.. candaces attorney rick simons responded by pointedly telling bundy: they think in public policy terms that theres too much risk in broadening the churchs responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do.

jwleaks

Watchtower-Free "Bearing thorough Witness" book pg 197

Thanks for the correction. I just noticed something in the picture that I had never seen before. In the background is a clergyman with a big smile.

Bearing Thorough-Witness About God's Kingdom

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“We are not done yet!” – Candace Conti reacts to appeal court decision

by Watchtower-Free in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-are-not-done-yet-candace-reacts-to-appeal-court-decision.

candace conti (pictured in her interview with abc) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision.

as current and former jehovahs witnesses digest the news that watchtowers appeal against the candace conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: we are not done yet.. news spread on monday that the state appeals court in san francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original june 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against watchtower.. the court decided that, though watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile jonathan kendrick in field ministry, a church-sponsored activity, the organization had no duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.. an insightful report by investigative reporter trey bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.. the burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision, the judges wrote.. candaces attorney rick simons responded by pointedly telling bundy: they think in public policy terms that theres too much risk in broadening the churchs responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do.

jwleaks

Watchtower has painted itself in a corner. In the Conti case the court has consistently found them negligent and liable for the sexual abuse of Candace as a child. The court has consistently awarded Conti millions in damages.

Does the Watchtower and governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses accept this chastisement and legal decision as discipline from Jehovah or do they view it as an unfavorable legal decision.

The Watchtower book "Benefit from Theocratic Ministry School Education" emphatically states that they "appeal unfavorable legal decisions."

One option Watchtower can take is an appeal to the Supreme Court. In this they can present a very weak argument, one guaranteed not to be accepted, and then play the victim card.

jwleaks

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