two things related to ongoing comments regarding forgiving of loans / transfer of balances to the wtbs and the ownership of kingdom halls.
firstly, i would argue that congregations don't care that bank balances have been transferred to the society.
i would contend that people contribute to the preaching work, and that's it , so long as there is enough in the bank to maintain the hall with a reasonable reserve, then i doubt many would argue against it.
compare KH with this meal-hall:
the franchisee pays a monthly fee to put the "M" on the roof and to the serve food produced by the
governing franchisor. Franchisors are able to sell franchises and expand rapidly across countries and continents using the capital and resources of their franchisees while reducing their own risk. similar. If the fee would be called montly donation, you would not find a difference.
not really.
i just wanted to post this because it's funny.. .
homecoming.
my good friend bob and i usually try to get together on friday to listen to live music someplace and decompress from the week's pressures.
robby knew betty back in high school.
i need some advice guys.
how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.
i was invited to a jw gathering last night.
as Londo111 said: Remember: you are not a committed member.
this would change my elderly council:
"At this and this point the sister has to say STOP or to make a joke like mentioned above if the question would compromise her, except in the case of a a judicial hearing, if the sister was a baptised member, then she would not be allowed to say Stop, and she must not joke but tell all details. In serious spiritual questions the sister must not be silent. This is for her best it is no hypocrisy but a loving arrangment to help her, comfort her and suppport her.
Dont let them make you a victim!
Gain a little weigth
change nothing
kiss more
i need some advice guys.
how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.
i was invited to a jw gathering last night.
Women need a little privacy. As the privacy of single sisters is ever more at risk in these last days
our 2016 year text should call " How To Do respectful conversation with A Single Sister".
Awards for the best answers on compromising questions should be focus at the "christian service" meeting, so the sister would learn to protect herself better simple by listening to the demonstrations from the podium.
Brothers could be appointed as "minders of single sisters in the professional surrounding" to protect them of any harm from lumpen and stupid investigation, so they would feel like angels, angels that protect the single sister, tell me which elder would not like to be such an angel for the single sisters? Imagine the council from the elder: "At this and this point the sister has to say STOP or to make a joke like mentioned above if the question would compromise her"
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
I compared the map of the project plan ( http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk/current) with the areal photo in Google you can clearly see that the project area is indeed a "one piece - compound" on which a body shop (R.P. Autos- Temple Farm Ind Est/Ship Rd,Chelmsford CM2 , car scrap heap, vehicle dismantlers, small workshop garages an other things are residing. This body shop would now already be closed.
From above you see further that the other surrounding grounds belong to farmers because the grounds are farmed, what makes this rumour implausible
What remains is satire ...Imagine these farmers would have become suddenly rich and now be making holidays together with the owner of the body shop on a distinct island which will soon not exist because of the climatic change everywhere and rise of the sea level. They would not envy the witnesses who donated for their holidays and gave their last money and not envy those poor bethelites that would soon be jobbing at Temple farm for the slave, at sweat jobs for slave salaires but in beautiful landscape. "We have drawn the better lots anyway".
http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
i'm happy to join every ex-jw.borg site i can and support in whatever way i can.
i now regularly donate to these sites when available.
i'm bitter but i don't hate jws because they were brainwashed like we all were.
so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.
the un membership.
the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.
All the issues mentioned in your post I was not aware of when I faded. That was 1990. Only after access to the internet I got these informations. While "active" (terrible word) I never knew of a pyramid story, the only thing I heard of in the 80's was 1975 but from a brainwashed "whitewashed" Wt perspective.
And the more I read about ever more latest "scandals" I was convinced that the whole "system" has to be changed and not only some minor points, some directives.
In my case a constant feeling of depression and loneliness in different forms as result of the JW lifestyle as single male combined with feeling of senselessness in face of the terrifyging outlook for forthcoming Armagedoon, as well as feeling of senseless efforts in service with parttimejob were the triggers that slowly opened my inner reasons and warnings bells. I stopped to believe in every word, while further playing happiness. I was in the age when a man should establish a family but was desilusioned and unsure, cause I couldnot see how I would ever really like live in JW family pattern situation, teaching children something aweful that I was not really convinced of, I appreciated only the love message of the bible. Sacrificing a child for the blood issue was not in my intention. After I undersigned the "blood card", I hided it and didnt even carry it with me.
When I realized that I could not speak really openely about difficult questions that I had about the blood issue or overexegerated usage of armagedon, i knew that I was trapped. I looked up the "blood" subject in a public library and found out what jewish and catolic thought about, and found the explanation more convincining, fortunately I began to read other things than watchtowers. For me these other books were an "aha-experience". The news since internet are even more convincing.
