Posts by TheWonderofYou

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My Explanation of God.

by LAWHFol in

i am a theist & this is my version of god.. instead of using the term god, i'll use "unseen presence".. this unseen presence, is perfect in every way.

this presence is so perfect it can seem a bit boring.this perfection can be seen in the laws of science, for example gravity.. it does not sometimes work, depending on the mood of some one in the sky, it always works, perfectly.

gravity does not get angry and decide to stop working, and cause the death of innumerable living beings, it just works, through thick or thin, it is reliable.. what allows this unseen presence to remain perfect, is the fact that it does not act based on emotion, or strategy or regret.. it acts based on law, mathematical law.. this unseen presence is not partial to jews or muslims or jw's it is completely impartial at all times, to everything that exists.

TheWonderofYou

Everything that is know to exist, is a result of the Unseen Presence.
The original commandment is not seen, it is Known by All.. ....evolution

The " original commandement" -idea you mention sounds similar to the idea in catolic theology that god planted a "demand" or "call" in the human soul and in all creation, a "longing" to answer the creator, a principal good soul, the consciousness, the instinct (or prinicpal determination)

It could be further compared to the idea that our cosmos has "a direction" or "a thrive" iwhereto it goes or develops itself while it unvisible but constantly follows a commandment.

In this notion basic principle that is behind the cosmos has no personal connation at all (a personal god is not necessary like in buddism) any commandment that seems to be good, is only our subjective awareness.

The original commandment (as unseen presence) would certainly for it self alone not presume or advance the evolution of life or human intelligence it it was not "commanded" some tiny unseen quark or basic god part?

From acertainable effects or attributes of the "unseen presence"/commandements" [the essence/nature of it] we reason the existence of the unseen presence, we do what we can.

'Wether this is only a logical conclusion in our thoughts or this is a scientifically empirically verifiable experience is another question.

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My Explanation of God.

by LAWHFol in

i am a theist & this is my version of god.. instead of using the term god, i'll use "unseen presence".. this unseen presence, is perfect in every way.

this presence is so perfect it can seem a bit boring.this perfection can be seen in the laws of science, for example gravity.. it does not sometimes work, depending on the mood of some one in the sky, it always works, perfectly.

gravity does not get angry and decide to stop working, and cause the death of innumerable living beings, it just works, through thick or thin, it is reliable.. what allows this unseen presence to remain perfect, is the fact that it does not act based on emotion, or strategy or regret.. it acts based on law, mathematical law.. this unseen presence is not partial to jews or muslims or jw's it is completely impartial at all times, to everything that exists.

TheWonderofYou

I cant see a difference between "unvisible presence" and "unseen presence", perhaps my "language spectacles" are not clear and able to differ it, i m socialized in german so english is always a challenge.

Is this presence the total situation, the space-time continuum? Or do you think it is an physical or metaphysical object

"Presence is the only time that really belongs to us alone", Blaise Pascale.
"Since we cannot know all that there is to be known about anything we ought to know a little about everything." Blaise Pascale

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Is this a BEAUTIFUL STORY--or what?

by Terry in

is this a beautiful story, or what?.

act one________.

now in an ordinary romance of the golden hollywood era, the boy goes off to war while the young lady waits nervously for his safe return.in a cary grant, debra kerr movie, the two vow to meet after a certain period of time and tragic circumstances intervene.. in my story, the young man is a conscientious objector who goes to prison instead of off to the vietnam war.

TheWonderofYou

Act 4

The curtain is yet closed. The lights are dimmering, the audience is awaiting the next act

Noises ....memories of the past decades .. voices of prison guards, old music, some contemporary history ... warplanes.. laughing children, cry "daddy, daddy loook", then a song ... a record plays "que sera sera what ever will be will be, the future is not ours to see, que sera sera." The clock points to a certain day before saturday.

The curtain opens. A woman sitting o armchair looking in an album, children are playing and running around her.

"Wait, I found it, that was he, my first friend, look, what a talented young man he was, coureagous and able to talk with poetry".

"You kept the picture in your album for so long time ma"?

"Its my book of promises, they tell about the promises I made" Orchestra music plays a love song silently while the curtain closes and the scene changes.

It could be saturday

Flowers, garden, bar, a table, the woman sitting and waiting. A quite nervous man arriving holding a gift in his hand.

The audience wishes the best for this date.

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Saddest thing about being DFd

by kairos in

jw
friends

i always enjoyed being kind.

when someone genuinely needed a hand or what not, it felt good to help family or friends.. i don't really miss them anymore.

i faded over two years ago, so they long ago shunned me.i think about them less and less and have even forgotten some names.i did enjoy some of the friendships and the association.

TheWonderofYou

Cheer up! We are only human. Tell them that you need time because you are so disappointed about what they did, but that you are missing your friends and........You are only human and need time to manage the whole matter, that you dont wanna talk about private things at all e.g. whether you doubt something or not, such things you would not like to talke about anyone, its your own busines, but thats clear you need find your spiritual strenght again, yourself, with prayer and bible reading and you like to talk with your friends.

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Straight from a Muslim: Who is to blame for ISIS?

by steve2 in

the message below was posted from a friend in singapore to me on friday 14th november 2015. my friend is not the author - but is an acquaintance of the author.

the post was subsequently "deleted" due to acute religious and political sensitvities in that city-state - but i can vouch for its authenticity.

my friend made a hard copy of the post - hence when the post was removed, a copy remained.. i have removed the author's name for obvious reasons.

TheWonderofYou

Obvioulsy a very dangeours secret alliance of terrorists and extremists. It was one year ago, when I watched a youtube video with a talk of an secret service official about the dangers of muslim terrorist. I cant find it yet now but I found something else.

Given the long history of Muslim Brotherhood activity in this country, its declared objective to "destroy the Western civilization from within," and the extensive evidence of successful influence operations at the highest levels of the U.S. government, it is urgent that we recognize this clear and present danger that threatens not only our Republic but the values of Western civilization.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3672/muslim-brotherhood-us-government

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Scientology too discourges real education

by Londo111 in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4923765590851584/other-religious-groups-critical-higher-education.

i've been trying to post to this thread, but for some reason, it keeps hanging.

but what i wanted to add is that scientology is also against real education.

TheWonderofYou

Certainly so.

Do you need a map of the entire terrain if you are on a clear tagged "one-way-road" to the goal, anyway? No.

If you are on the free offered signposted road to the salvation, everything else is only distraction and you can invest all your safeings now following this way.

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What do people expect god to do?

by punkofnice in

i was watching the news about the french terrorist attacks.

not getting into that but i notice the media is churning it over a bit, now.

moving switly on; there were prayers for peace reported.. question: what do those praying for peace think that god will actually do about their prayers?.

TheWonderofYou

Assad (Syrias president) did not fight against ISIS but against other rebells and his people, he has a mafia-like deal amongst between Assad and ISIS.

US. didnt want to do something really in syrian territory. ISIS is allowed to do so many things.

What you need to know, ISIS was made by U.S./Israel 2006 to overthrow Assad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6jCGJHsE6U

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275598/The-REAL-power-struggle-Syria-Assad-ISIS-work-provide-energy-country-terrified-staff-forced-work-Islamist-held-electricity-plants.html

Its a terror-mafia-regime now that uses religious muslim-sectirian doctrine to indoctrincate people.

History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hevPw1MMhm8

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What do people expect god to do?

by punkofnice in

i was watching the news about the french terrorist attacks.

not getting into that but i notice the media is churning it over a bit, now.

moving switly on; there were prayers for peace reported.. question: what do those praying for peace think that god will actually do about their prayers?.

TheWonderofYou

20 bombs on ISIS HQ

http://africanspotlight.com/2015/11/15/paris-attacks-france-drops-20-bombs-on-isis-headquarters-in-raqqa-photos/

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What do people expect god to do?

by punkofnice in

i was watching the news about the french terrorist attacks.

not getting into that but i notice the media is churning it over a bit, now.

moving switly on; there were prayers for peace reported.. question: what do those praying for peace think that god will actually do about their prayers?.

TheWonderofYou

I think by praying and the minute of silence at 12.00 h today we can take part in the immeasureable sorrow. We show respect and compassion and it helps us in the process of overcoming it.

As everybody has different personal notions about God, for those who believe in aGod the hope in this God or religion overlaps with the common awareness of compassion and rightousness and the notion that every human sole has a high value and a Wonder, what unifies us as mankind compared with the basic human hope that the good will lately convince the evil.

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

TheWonderofYou

Many like yoga many others not. Its the same with faith. Many like opera others not. We are not here to critizise someones likings or courage, I respect each man as wonder per se in the current stadium of personal development.

Faith itself is already a talent that not everbody has, only those who go along with it, try it out, understand it. Mediation about a bible text, mediation about a watchtower or the daily text or may it be the life in a monstery or Gandhis attitute to fight or thinking about interpretation of Quoran..Faith is an experience and cant be "preached". Thinking about such things alone is for many too much and unnecessary lost of time. Nobody can be urged to correlate with the state of faith of someone else. We as ex-JW-community have big respect of someones creed or opinion.

Therefore not everybody is ready to fight for something like Jesus fought for cleansing of the temple.

Many want to remain silent and want to wait and simple be good in their heart. I understand that. In the face of organisational shunning, a world of marking and disfellowshippment it is clear that many think what they want but behave as covered agent for benevolence and help others. It is like living in a theocratic state, where you cant do anything and cant say anything, but Iran has become much better in the meantime too, even momen are allowed to elect.!

They dont want to throw out the merchandisers from the temple. They dont destroy the donation boxes in the Kingdom halls, they dont destory the cash machines at the conventions as Jesus would have done perhaps.

But remember always, Jesus didnot harm any people or deafs when he cleansed the temple, he simply bowled down the tables of the dealers and threw the money on the bottom, he didnot kill anybody in the temple with the sword, suicide attack or excommunicate the dealers or publicy denounce them as APOSTATE persons, but he shouted out against the evil practise and intervened (this was no sweet rebellion):

Because he wanted that the people could pray to God in silence withouth the disturbance of moneybeggers. Jesus respected he dealers as human beings but stood up against the misuse of the place of worship. Against the evil but having the good for the dealer in mind, perhaps the dealer can be saved, the typical christian attitude, doing everything with the loving sweet intent.

How many would have the courage to stand up and risk everything even the life or at least a good stand for such a seemingly unimportant fight against beggers and dealers in the organisation, only with the intent that the brothers can have a clean place of worship?

I think I could not do that, i would be to anxious.

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