i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
Hi, sorry cant find time to write my entry. Made already about 30 notes, they are laying around in my loft everywhere between pages of encyclopedias,
bibles, books.
Joke: Anyway whe should be aware of the bad spirit that survive in magical toys like the warrior wizard and we should findn out if a bad spirit exits and how to identify it.
i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
Hi, I will be glad to answer after a break, a meal and coffee. :-) TWOY
i've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
It was always my hope to that the spirit of God opens the hearts of people, when I was in the field services. Why should it not be so in reality. To believe in a divine spirit without allowing him to do this would be not logical.
1.The spirit is unlimited and thus the christian church has to be unlimited, open for all.
2. God does not hold back his spirit for those who do not know Jesus Christ or the Bible, as the bible shows God is working in each human being and in all religions.
3. At the moment of accepting Jesus, by entering into the church community, you come into a closer relationship than all other people have with the spirit.
To the church Jesus has a special relationship. All christians form one "body"like entity, each member is a "limb" of that body. Thus from this time onwards the spirit makes you the gift of a new life.
4. Jesus said that you than become beloved by him like a bride is loved by the bridgegroom. But like in a marriage you must allows try to speak with each other and intensify that intimate love.
5. Holy spirit is asssiting us on our way of faith. We will only feel and understand the spirit, the new life, if we begin to walk on this way, cause faith and love you can only experience by doing not by thinking about, its a matter of heart, a loving type of spirituality of walking hand in hand, a marriage.
6 But all other human on earth which are not in the marriage between Christ and Church are blessed by the benefits of the church. The whole creation
is waiting for the revelation of the sons of god. These sons of god are those who lead a spirit-full life and thus are a blessing for others.
Greetings.
TWOY
well there you have it folks.
they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.
down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.
Why the hell they need the hey so instantly ?
Would not WAITING like in Scully's post be humid, faithful & secreeeeet?
so we all know of the parable / illustration at matt 7:13.
"go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones finding it, or going in through it".
here is a brain snapping thought that hit me!:.
I wasnt better than those. and on the narrow way to the gate , am I really having a relation to god ? am i praying yet? what is my treasure for what i live , for what things my time invested
watchtower has said that jesus is not the mediator of anyone but for the anointed.
then they tell you that they are jehovah's organization and that the flock should obey them.. basically, the watchtower corp. and it's governing body is taking the place of jesus as the mediator for people.
christianity, even by it's name, focuses on making jesus known.
Should not Jesus better make a meditation then being such a mediator?
P.S. I always have this Scientology Adveritsment, when I am logged in.
watchtower has said that jesus is not the mediator of anyone but for the anointed.
then they tell you that they are jehovah's organization and that the flock should obey them.. basically, the watchtower corp. and it's governing body is taking the place of jesus as the mediator for people.
christianity, even by it's name, focuses on making jesus known.
What is the acutal teaching of Watchtower about the mission of Jesus as mediator?
- Stage 1: God to Jesus: "Start the mission now, be my word and get flesh!"
- Stage 2: "Achieve your duty, become a ransom sacrifice and bring me the value of your blood into heaven,
so that I can accept it an be reconciled with, ya ....of course, only... the anointed remnant "
- Stage 3: "Yes be attentive my son: this mission is only for some anointed, the other people my son
you have to save otherwise, any ideas?"
- Stage 4: "Yes okay the remnant shall give information to all mankind and then I will be reconciled with all men on earth.
So we can do it and accomplish my will.
- Stage 5: End of mission will be if you do all what I say to you and the remnant
and you sit on the thron on my right side.
That will be fine then. What are you waiting for, Jesus?"
TWOY
interested in online resources for new testament?
nt and od is the antique book with.
the most documentated available manuscripts.
Crazyguy, thanks for commenting.
Fine point about el and elohim. I had to check up that. I found out something.
- El was the god of the fathers, Abraham, Isaak and Jacob (not JHWH)
- The El-religion was adopted by Israel in the special version of Elohim.[=Plural: sense: "Everything Divine is He"] in the continuation of the fathers religion and by emphazising the uniqueness of this El.
El-religion was a God the image of God as a social and personal one. The fathers of Israel had already decided for
a god which whom they "had a personal relationship". El was no God of special place or city, of a mystic tree or source, of a natural might,
El was seen on the level of Me and you. Thus this image became basis of the Israel faith. El was seen as holder of a disctinct personality, as father, as creator of the creatures, as the wise and king, as highest god, as hightest might, who was about everything else. This thought again is bases in the Isreal religion. El was not king in the meaning of Baal. (see below)
Excluded by the fathers were :
- conceptions of god as "Baal = Lord and Melech, moloch=king,( aristocratical god of limitless despoty and not image of social god)
- conceoption of god as local god and resulting fertility-beliefs
Thus the El-concept became basis of Isral and christianity.
The fathers only took up a certain name or concept of God in their time.
So much to translate from german into english.
this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.
the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.
the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.
Very interesting thoughts, let me go check up.
TWOY
watchtower has said that jesus is not the mediator of anyone but for the anointed.
then they tell you that they are jehovah's organization and that the flock should obey them.. basically, the watchtower corp. and it's governing body is taking the place of jesus as the mediator for people.
christianity, even by it's name, focuses on making jesus known.
Hello, a great point, often such thoughts arise, but mostly I forget such items to fast before writing down.
Is the truth understood as a sum of all dogmas or is it understood as a "way of the truth"?
I cite from a booklet of catolic church: "The first christians called the new way of living: the new way, the way of god,
the way of the lord, the way of the faith, the way of salvation, the new and vivid /lively way! For Jesus said of himself: I am the way."
The term way of truth thus maybe a term invented or stressed by JW, but it depends always with what ideas the term is filled out.
Two matters i want to study further:
what is a mediator? (direct contact to god / or via mediators)
Because the church says if Jesus was a mediator in the sense of a merely perfect man he could not save us at all,
he could not be the real truth,
he could not forgive our sins, cause God alone is able to save us, to forgive sins.
Thus derives the dogma that Jesus was God and only thereby he was able to be a mediator,
otherwise we would have never direct contact to god if we pray to Jesus,
we always needed a human mediator, a priest or an organisation to contact God.
This mediator subject is associated with the subject trinity and others.
Short: truth is only God, and as jesus is the real mediator, we go on the secure way together with Jesus.
But his gift is his presence and he helps us to find the right way of truth.
He is present in our life, he is not merely "unvisible presence" but "real together walking".
Greetings
TWOY
