Posts by Sanchy

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

Sanchy

Thats exactly what WT wants, to be honest. The settlement money is simply taken off of the books.

Even more so than hiding any potential criminality, I'd argue that WT, as per Bobby's own words above, is very interested in maintaining the negative spotlight hidden from it's members and potential members. A growing number of victims speaking up publicly, as well as a growing number of ongoing court cases against WT, would only make it increasingly difficult to believe that this is God's sole chosen organization.

It is no surprise that WT is eager to settle as quick as possible.

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faithful and discreet slave no longer refers to self as "prophet" (or "prophet class")?

by Magnum in

the fds used to refer to itself as being a prophet or prophet class.

it used to call itself "the ezekiel class", "the jeremiah class", etc.

didn't it stop doing that?

Sanchy

Indeed a reactive response.

They've purposely avoided referring to themselves as prophet-like for some decades now and it seems to have worked, to a certain extent, in keeping JWs from doubting. In my conversations with random JW apologists I've found that they usually disregard anything published pre-2000 as "ancient" and not really relevant to today's understanding anyways.

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God wipes out humans/wickedness in Noah's Flood but somehow wickedness returns

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

genesis 6: 9-139 this is the account of noah and his family.noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with god.

10 noah had three sons: shem, ham and japheth.11 now the earth was corrupt in god’s sight and was full of violence.12 god saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.

13 so god said to noah, “i am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.

Sanchy

The excuse I often used as a JW was that Jehoboobs needed to destroy all the Nephilim

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

No rational person would doubt mishandlings.

This is no minor issue. The mishandling of potentially 1000s of cases over many decades meant added pain and suffering to countless victims. These victims are real people Bobby, not just statistics. Individuals that have been inflicted with severe and lasting emotional trauma, not only from the perpetrators, but also from witnessing the religion that they thought to be directed by holy spirit carrying out procedures that resulted in harm to themelselves and to others.

As to the cover up, the evidence is out there for all to see. You and I both know how important image and reputation are to Watchtower. But who knows, maybe we will one day see a "real judge" clear the matter up.

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

My “charges” comment was more in reference to JWsurvey contributors sensationalize comment of the GB being charged with a crime as a result of IICSA.

This is not JWSurvey. Your perceived notion of "sensationalized" headlines has no bearing on the fact that the organization is guilty of mishandling decades worth of countless child abuse cases, and that it has made an effort to cover up that fact.

To focus on other non-issues is irrelevant.

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

You might not be the owner of said sites then, but you are the same Bob I'm referring to. I understand why you'd want to deny that though. Dont worry, I wont rat you out.. You are right though, we are getting off topic, so to address one of your previous arguments:

The ARC surely did not result in charges being brought against any GB member nor a membership reversal

True. Though it was not the purpose of the Royal Comission to "bring charges" on the GB, or any other religious identity, but rather to inquire into institutional responses to child abuse, report findings and put forth recommendations. It is a strawman argument for you to continue referring to the lack of criminal charges brought forth as some sort of absolvement for the org when it comes to their many mishandlings and subsequent cover ups of child abuse.

The comission's findings confirmed the failures of the org in adequately responding to child abuse in its summary:

"We do not consider the Jehovah’s Witness organisation to be an organisation which responds adequately to child sexual abuse. We do not believe that children are adequately protected from the risk of sexual abuse for the following reasons..."

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

I won’t create an account there and rat you out, though I should.

Not only are you disobeying the GB, but now also guilty of lying. You dont need to "create an account" there. You already have one.

You also lied the other day when you claimed not to be affiliated with Opposers Dismythed and JWs Understood, which you are.

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

site owner reserves the right to determine what speech is acceptable or not

Indeed. Here you have ability to post your counter arguments, and it is obvious that you welcome doing so, even if it means directly disobeying the GB's direction on "arguing with apostates".

Its ok though, your speech is "acceptable" here.

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UK IndependentUK Commission on Child Sexual Abuse possible new, separate inquiry into JWs

by Lostandfound in

the guardian newspaper today reports that the iccsa has received “numerous” reports relating to child sexual abuse among jehovahs witness's, and it is possible they will establish an entirely separate inquiry into these reports.

the government set up the iccsa independnt inquiry into child sexual abuse some time ago and their has been a delay in the inquiry operating as thw role of chair s established.. typo in heading, sorry .

Sanchy

Bobby, isn't it great to be able to freely speak your mind on this forum without fear of having your messages deleted for posting arguments counter to those of the majority here?

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Crooked Teeth

by Introvert 2 in

well 55 yo this summer times flies.. was in my late thirties when i started thinking about getting braces or some other treatment for my crowded teeth.

decided to put it off a few years later as 'the new system' ™ was right around the corner.

then went through a huge burn out depression and my teeth became a lesser priority.

Sanchy

I started using the invisalign transparent braces at 30 years of age. I wish I would have done it sooner. Treatment took a few years and a few thousand dollars, but it was totally worth it. I'm very pleased with the results.

The transparent braces are great for adults.