some go back to churchianity!.
and that, to me, indicates they never had real faith in god- but it was in men.....
Not all churches teach God is "three in one"
Not all churches teach that the soul is immortal
The God of the bible is Sadist regardless of whether you go to church or not
The bible is not clear regarding what judgement there is beyond death, but it does speak of it
Not all churches teach that the earth will be destroyed
Not all churches teach Jesus was alive those 3 days
The bible teaches to obey Governments
and it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.
even most of the elders don't want to be at the meetings. Most of them find an excuse to get up several times in the span of 2 hours
So true. I for one thought the best part of being elder was that there was always reason to get up and do something during meeting. Made time go by so much faster.
so using some amazing features of excel and the starting data here, i managed to get the average, the maximum, and the minimum percentage of the inhabited landmass of the earth where jehovah's witnesses have been either active (reported) or "not banned".the average is 66.10%!!
that means that for 90 years, ever since there is data, 1/3 of the world's area has not been preached in or been fully able to preach in!the minimum occurred in 1943, when only 26.77% of the world's inhabited area made a full yearly report and/or wasn't banned.the maximum occurred in 1991 because the yearbook said that the ussr was included.
the maximum was 82.47%.
Nice chart Ilovettatt. Given that these areas where the "kingdom message" hasn't been preached in tend to be densely populated, I wonder how many millions, if not billions of people are missing out on these "good news".
my support is with the marchers in washington and around the country today.
i was raised through my formative years by my mother and sister while my father was out of the picture.
they gave me the compassion i have today.
These folks protest and march, yet really I see no clear direction nor objective, as was the case with the occupy movement. For the most part I just see angry folks venting, throwing their fists up, and claiming victim status. On the opposite side of the political spectrum, shortly after Obama's rise, the tea party organized itself to win political victories nationwide in local, state and federal seats and policy.
i realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.
so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.
for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.
^^^ What Pete said
okay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
The phraseology "require more energy than exists in the universe" seems to imply that once energy has been used to accomplish a function it is thereafter lost. But that is not how it works as I understand it.
Well I was thinking more in line of one needing at least a few atoms within a storage system just to map the location of a separate single atom. Now multiply that by all the atoms in the universe times every fraction of a second in time and you'd quickly run out of storage space, or energy, since you'd need more than exists in the entire universe.
That is of course unless the existence of the universe as a whole was procedural and could be described mathematically with formulas that describe where all elementary particles were, are and will be.
okay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
Wouldn't it be the case that mapping the location and state of every atom that has ever existed require more energy than exists in the universe itself?
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
The problem is not how many cases ocurred or wether the perp was elder or MS or even JW. The real problem lies with how WT deals with any such cases.
Their policies protect the perp, puts the victim and others at risk and is completely inadequate altogether in dealing with the issue.
my mom, while pregnant with me, was one of thousands of jw volunteers to work on the construction of this once beautiful assembly hall in south florida circa 1984. it had a beautiful pond, waterfall, and even a resident alligator.
many remember it as well for it's huge plaster murals on the walls showing scenes of paradises.. pics as it was before (sorry for the low quality, struggled to find good pics of the auditorium as it was, if you have any good ones, do share them):.
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Does anyone know how much the org sold it for?
According to Realtytrac it sold for 12 Million
my mom, while pregnant with me, was one of thousands of jw volunteers to work on the construction of this once beautiful assembly hall in south florida circa 1984. it had a beautiful pond, waterfall, and even a resident alligator.
many remember it as well for it's huge plaster murals on the walls showing scenes of paradises.. pics as it was before (sorry for the low quality, struggled to find good pics of the auditorium as it was, if you have any good ones, do share them):.
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Hecce: That promise is a very "old and trusted con"
So true Hecce. Funny thing is that even after the WTB Auditorium loan was supposed to be paid out with the sale of this one, they were still asking for the same amount of money at assemblies ran on that location. I never quite understood that. Costs for a typ circuit assembly @WPB were anywhere from $20-25k before AND after the supposed paying off of loan.
Vidiot: There's a fundamental irony floating around here, somewhere...
It's somewhere in there I suppose lol
