Posts by twinkletoes

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Cheap dubs no wheelchair ramp for sister

by DannyHaszard in

[the watchtower pr people are asleep at the switch allowing this to get on the news without their crafted embellishments].

a ramp could expand world.

cincinnati enquirer, oh - 7 minutes ago (see danny is ever vigilent).

twinkletoes

I feel so sorry for this person, but unfortunately this is nothing new. Here in Hereford UK, we had the same problem with the KH. The congregation bought this property and refurbished it from "scratch", they chose to have the main hall upstairs, and although they promised that they would provide access for disabled ones, they never did (OVER 11 YEARS TO DO THIS). We personally knew of ones that were unable to climb the stairs and had to sit in the foyer downstairs watching the service on as black and white TV. Usually sitting alone, as the presiding overseer was not happy about others sitting in the foyer. This room - was a open access to the toilets and door to the outside, therefore in the winter time it was extremely cold and uncomfortable for the disabled (some in wheelchairs). Some of us set-up a fund for a "Chair-lift" but in their (Elders) wisdom, and I believe also against charity laws (re:Restricted Funds rules), they chose to rename the fund to a "special needs fund" thereby turning what should have been a restricted fund for a wheelchair into a general fund to spend where ever they decided.

As you have so rightly pointed out, it wouldn't take much effort to build a ramp for the disabled lady at her home, especially if this would enable her to get to meetings, surely this is what christianity is all about. I can't imagine Jesus ignoring her plight.

One good thing may come out of her not being able to get to meetings - especially as it appears she uses a computer, perhaps she could look at this forum and find out for herself just what a mind-controlling cult they really are.

Twinkletoes

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Hello Everyone! I'm new to the forum.

by limbogirl in

i just found this forum and joined today -- i am so happy that you're all out there sharing your stories and experiences.

growing up jw or just being jw is such a unique experience and can only be shared with people who have been there.

a little about me... i grew up jw -- mom pioneered and dad was an elder.

twinkletoes

Welcome Limbogirl, so nice to have you join us. I look forward to hearing more from you. This is a great place with lots of lovely people.

Twinkletoes and Kaytee

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Something I want to tell you apostates

by LeftBehind in

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friends

i want you to know that you have destroyed a family because of your lies about jehovah and his organization.

a family member went apostate and has turned his back on jehovah.

he told us he is never coming back and i know he went and visited internet sites.

twinkletoes

Hello Left Behind

I do hope that you will come back to read all of the comments.

We (husband and I) were in the Organisation for over thirty years, we did not leave because we became apostates, but because we could no longer be part of an organisation that claimed to represent God yet at the same time SECRETLY were affiliated as an NGO with the United Nations for almost 10 years. We could not allow ourselves to go along with such hypocrisy.

Twinkletoes

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Greetings

by Justino00 in

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friends

hello, it is a pleasure to be here and read such interesting posts.

i have had experience with jehovah's witnesses and their current and future events interest me.

so far i like what i see here, very informative.

twinkletoes

Welcome on board !! to the newbies. Look forward to hearing more from you.

Twinkletoes

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My own Brother writes.....

by geevee in

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friends

just receieved this this morning.

initially i was seething.

but now i think that the best reply is no reply.

twinkletoes

Hello Geevee

I'm not sure of your reasons for stopping going to the KH, but if like many of us, the UN Scandal was the main issue, then perhaps you could write to your brother and ask him to explain to you why it was OK for the Org to (hypocritically) be affiliated with the UN for almost 10 years, yet at the same time preach differently about the UN? You could ask for answers to some of your questions, saying that you wish to get things clear in your own mind before explaining such things to your own children.

Twinkletoes

PS. My brother is still in the JWs, eventhough I sent him copies of the letter from the UN confirming the WT affiliation etc. Sad isn't it.

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Theocratic supermarket trolleys [Ozzie's Weekend Poll #154]

by ozziepost in

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well, i can brave most things but i've yet to find an answer to those "i've got a mind of my own" supermarket trolleys!

talk about ambidextrous - those wheels can go in opposite directions at the same time!.

of course, all that will change in the "new system"tm.

twinkletoes

Hi Ozzie,

Now you have made me wonder -

WAS EZEKIEL'S CHARIOT (WITH IT'S WHEEL WITHIN A WHEEL) A PROTYPE OF THE SUPERMARKET TROLLEY (buggy, cart) ????

Twinkletoes

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When you tell someone that you're an ex-Jehovah's Witness...

by MsMcDucket in

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..are you proud or embarrassed?

twinkletoes

When I was a witness I was sometimes uncomfortable in admitting it to people l didn't know. Usual objections from them = blood, xmas. birthdays etc. But now I am out, I enjoy and make the most of the situation, usually by telling them that although I had been in the witnesses for over thirty years, I could not go along with hypocrisy = and then start to explain to them the UN involvement in terms that they can understand. Remembering that most people are not aware of the way that the witnesses view the UN.

Twinkletoes

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its time to say.....BYE BYE

by zev in

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friends

no long...... "see you later's"....just bye bye.. .

my time has come to leave this place.

thanks for the memories, good times, and useful information.. .

twinkletoes

I've just see this thread via Mouthy's post . Happy birthday to Zev

I also wanted to thank him so much for exposing the WT re UN scandal, I didn't realise it was Zev who did it. It was the UN thing that really set the ball rolling for me and hubby. Now we are free of the mind control cult

Thanks Zev and keep in touch from time to time.

Twinkletoes and Kaytee

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Can anyone tell me about the UN

by PoppyR in

i'm so sorry that i'm sure everytime somone new joins you're going over the same thing again, but all this is very new to me, in fact i've done very little this past week except read articles and cross reference the wt cd rom..lol, everyone thinks i'm getting spiritual again, anyway!

i have read several references to the jws and the un.. can anyone shed some light on the matter, ie point me in the direction of good posts or articles about it, as i'm still unclear what has been going on.

i'm most interested in the facts of the case which is what i think this board is best at!.

twinkletoes

Welcome to the board Poppy

We (husband and I) resigned from the JWs after being in for over 30 yrs, because of the UN scandal and the hypocrisy that went along with it. We found it almost impossible to believe and at first thought it must have been those "evil apostates" who were spreading rumours. It took us months to verify all of the information, and we now have a large lever-arch full of information. We telephoned the UN in New York, wrote a letter to the UN, and even emailled them. Each time they confirmed that the WT had indeed been an NGO for almost 10 years and would have had to comply with the criteria as laid out for any NGO.

We asked for two of the elders from the Hereford congregation to call to see us, which they did. We let them see all of the original information received from the UN including even the envelope with the UN postmark. We gave them copies to take away and they said that they would check it out and get back to us - they never did get back to us.

We also wrote to the London Bethell, asking them to reply to our concerns re: above points and more. They didn't even acknowledge our letter.

We have the UN letter and env. with postmark and lots of other info. which you are welcome to view if you want to call in to see us here in Hereford. We can send copies if you wish but sometimes its better to actually see the orginal documents.

Look forward to hearing more from you

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Just to say hi

by fullofdoubtnow in

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hi, i am a friend of dedpoet, i think he may have posted about me occasionally, and he has kindly allowed me to join the forum from his pc as i do not have internet access at home.

i have known trev (dedpoet) since he first joined the same congregation as me 14 years ago, and we have always been friends.

i was very sad when he left us some years ago, but have maintained contact with him, something that has got me in trouble with the elders just lately now he is disassociated.

twinkletoes

Welcome Linda,

What you are going through now is difficult but will get easier with time, and with the help of so many on this board. The shunning was always a problem for me, I just couldn't do it, it didn't seem christian at all. Now when we go shopping through our town (Hereford) we are sometimes shunned, but I just think, pity them really cos they are still held in the mind-control cult. We had written to the London Bethell and our own congregation asking questions about the UN involvement etc. but they ignored us.

We were both in the Org. for 32 years and sometimes feel bitter over all of the wasted years, times when we could have spent more time with our families. My husband's parents (non-witnesses) are dead now, so he can't try to make amends, but my parents are still alive (both in their late 80's & non-witnesses) so at least I have the chance to make up for some of the times I missed with them.

Look forward to hearing from you again.

love from Pauline