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What Was Your Reputation In The Congregation?
by minimus inwere you considered a "troublemaker", a "complainer", a "fine" brother or sister?
were you always being called before the elders for one thing or another?
is your reputation the same here as it was in the congregation??
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What Was Your Reputation In The Congregation?
by minimus inwere you considered a "troublemaker", a "complainer", a "fine" brother or sister?
were you always being called before the elders for one thing or another?
is your reputation the same here as it was in the congregation??
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jwbot
I was a troublemaker. YAY! I asked too many questions...I would complain about headship issues, education issues, what was not allowed, movies, clothing etc. You name it, I disagreed. heh
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Wedding Present: The Family Happiness book
by Nosferatu inmy mother told me that after i get married, she's going to give me the "family happiness" book.
i've never read the thing, but i know it's a wts publication that often gets given or mailed out to newlyweds who aren't in the troof.
what's your opinion of this "fine christian publication"?
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jwbot
Chapter 2:
"Similarly, a man who takes the success of his marriage seriously will seek a wife that he can love as his own flesh. She should complement him as a partner in establishing a home. (Genesis 2:18) Being a good homemaker is a demanding career of varied responsibilities. It calls for demonstrating talents as a cook, decorator, economist, mother, teacher, and much more. Her role can be creative and challenging, offering many opportunities for personal growth and fulfillment. A good wife, like a worthwhile husband, is a worker: ?She is watching over the goings on of her household, and the bread of laziness she does not eat.??Proverbs 31:27."
Chapter 4:
"The Bible assigns the husband to a position of headship in the marriage arrangement, saying: ?Let wives be in subjection to their husbands as to the Lord, because a husband is head of his wife as the Christ also is head of the congregation, he being a savior of this body. In fact, as the congregation is in subjection to the Christ, so let wives also be to their husbands in everything.? (Ephesians 5:22-24) Will this arrangement really contribute to happiness in the household? Some women speak out against what they describe as male chauvinism, that is, a vainglorious or exaggerated view that some men have toward their position in relation to women. But let us say at the outset that the teachings of the Bible do not endorse such male chauvinism."
"If you set the example of submission to the headship of Christ, it will not be a difficult thing?in fact, it can be a pleasure?for your wife to have deep respect for your headship as her husband."
"Also, some wives complain that their husbands are domineering. Perhaps this has resulted from the wife?s attempts to usurp his headship, with his resisting such usurpation"
"On the other hand, instead of abusing headship, some husbands abdicate it. They pass all the decision-making over to their wives. Or, while telling the wife ?not to rush them,? they procrastinate so much that family interests suffer. They may not be lazy or idle physically, but if they shy away from mental effort the results can be the same as those described in Proverbs 24:33, 34: ??A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest,? and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.??Revised Standard Version."
"You will gain respect from your wife if you show yourself steady and strong and able to make decisions. But that does not mean that no one else in the household is to be consulted or that your wife?s opinion is not to be given serious consideration just because it does not happen to agree with yours"
"To live today, in many lands, it takes a great deal of money, and you as the husband must make the decisions that govern how this need will be met"
"Although in most cases it is the husband who brings in the money for the family?s support, it should not be forgotten that it is earned by a joint effort. If you, the husband, think you are doing this by yourself, then just stop and figure out what it would cost you to hire a purchasing agent, a cook, a dishwasher, a housekeeper, a decorator, a nursemaid, and so forth. "
While appreciating the areas in which your needs are alike, you also need to understand the psychological differences between the two of you if you are going to ?assign honor? to your wife. Basically, women like to work under a ceiling of authority, provided that it is exercised properly. This is the way Jehovah God created them. Woman was made to be ?a helper for the man, as a complement of him.?
"A woman psychologist wrote: ?Basically, women feel while men think.? "
Chapter 5 has a LOT but I will post one:
"24 Weeping and nagging are not wise. They are damaging to a marriage. They alienate a husband. The Bible warns against such practices, as in the following scriptures quoted from The New English Bible: ?He who harps on something breaks up friendship.? ?A nagging wife is like water dripping endlessly.? ?Better to live alone in the desert than with a nagging and ill-tempered wife.? ?Endless dripping on a rainy day?that is what a nagging wife is like. As well try to control the wind as to control her! As well try to pick up oil in one?s fingers!??Proverbs 17:9; 19:13; 21:19; 27:15, 16.
25 Why do the Scriptures single out the wife for this counsel? Probably because women are generally more emotional and more inclined to give vent to their feelings, especially when they are disturbed about something. Also, they may feel it is the only weapon they have. As head of the house a husband may arbitrarily have his way, so the wife may feel that she must resort to putting on emotional pressure. You, the wife, should not indulge in such tactics, and your husband should not make you feel forced to do so."
"30 Now her husband comes home, and he has some news to tell. As he enters the door, he starts out, ?You?ll never guess what happened at work . . .? He never gets any farther. She interrupts him with, ?How did you get that spot on your coat? Be careful where you walk. I just cleaned the floor.? He may hesitate to take up his story again.
31 Or, perhaps they are conversing with friends and he is relating an experience, but he leaves out some of the details or doesn?t get them all exactly right. His wife cuts in, first to correct the flaws, then to round out the story. Before long he takes a deep breath and says, ?Why don?t you tell it??" -
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276,483 years from now.....
by SanFranciscoJim injehovah's witnesses are taught that they will live "forever" on paradise earth.. let's say the year is 278,486 (assuming armageddon occurred in 2003).
the millenium has passed, everyone has been resurrected, and earth has become the true paradise the jws predicted.. only one problem: you've done everything there is to do.
you've gone every place on earth there is to go.
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jwbot
"maybe the fastest I can do is twice the speed of sound" haha You are STOOOOOPID. Do you know that we already travel WAY faster than that.
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Wedding Present: The Family Happiness book
by Nosferatu inmy mother told me that after i get married, she's going to give me the "family happiness" book.
i've never read the thing, but i know it's a wts publication that often gets given or mailed out to newlyweds who aren't in the troof.
what's your opinion of this "fine christian publication"?
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jwbot
"Find it out for yourself. You'll get a one-sided review from this end" Enlighted us dorkycrass. Don't make me pull out my copy and give out some passages. Do you deny that it heavily goes on about the "submission" and "subjection" that women must be in to their husbands? I repeat, to any egalitarian, it will be seen as incredibly sexist-a reflection of the organization. I wanted it to be untrue...I really did. But I was too much of an egalitarian myself and it hurt my conscience and made me depressed to be in a religion that treats women as second to men and teaches boys sexism...If it wasn't for that, perhaps I would still be in the religion, but it is clear it is a misogynist group.
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"Worse and Worse" - It Makes My Blood Boil!
by metatron ineverytime i get stuck going to a sunday meeting at the kingdumb hall, it seems.
"worse and worse!".
don't tell me "worse and worse",.
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jwbot
Because the "society" wants to live in the 1950's when people were beating up black people, and it was OK to punch your wife and send your daugter away for getting pregnant. To them, it WAS better back then. To rational people, attitudes toward other human beings are getting better. Of course, in some countries, there is civil war and hardships...when was it not like that?
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Wedding Present: The Family Happiness book
by Nosferatu inmy mother told me that after i get married, she's going to give me the "family happiness" book.
i've never read the thing, but i know it's a wts publication that often gets given or mailed out to newlyweds who aren't in the troof.
what's your opinion of this "fine christian publication"?
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jwbot
"Perfect for mopping up with after an expertly timed contraceptive application of marital coitus interuptus."
LOL
I have to agree. Any egalitarian person with any shred of ethics would find the book a disgusting display of a patriarchal religion. I had a hard time sitting through the book studies when this book was being read...It made me reall depressed to be a woman. -
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Anti-Americanism
by Englishman inhow do you define someone as anti-american?
if you strongly disapprove of, say, america's foreign policies, yet basically have an affection for american people, does this still make you an anti-american?
is it possible that people are being accused of being anti-american inaccurately?
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jwbot
I am fond of the country I was born into (America) and because of that, and being humanist...I always want to strive to make it better. I think someone would be anti-american if they are satisfied with the way things are when things clearly need to change for the better. We are a country that values freedom of speech and equality-but we are not there yet. We still have sexism and hatred against different sexual orientations, and in some cases, people are really not able to speak their mind. I recognize President Bush as president, but I wholeheartedly do not agree with his policies. I will definitely vote against him. I do not think I would be anti-american to VOTE.
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jwbot
scandel? Do tell...
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No windows-really
by petespal2002 ini keep reading about kingdom halls having no windows.
is this just an american thing coz i've been in plenty and never been widowless yet?
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jwbot
It just depends on the area. In Maine, USA, all of the Kingdom Halls have windows. We would not invest in central air conditioning because it doesn't get hot here often, and since Maine is a cold dark place, windows are a good thing...but they are still small windows. When I visited Florida, there were no windows because I guess it let in too much sun light and they was cool buildings because of Floridas heat. Also they have central air. So I guess it is an area thing.