"when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies" jefferson airplane.
until that is you find websites like this!
i want to say a big thank you to all of you for everything i've learned here, as well as jwfacts, jwsurvey, coc, isocf etc.. i'm a born in and i spent more than two decades of my adult life in full time 'service' for the (b)org.
Exactly, it isn't the elders themselves, it is the overall system that trains the elders. Anyone who uses the 'imperfect men' excuse needs to realize it's the whole org that's flawed, cruel and corrupt. And these local elders feel pressured from their whole communities to 'reach out' to achieve success and status, and then follow the system to retain the title and avoid the embarrassment of stepping down. Many if not most lose their humanity.
Welcome.
i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??
I like that, kairos!
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i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??
Wow, she's a mess. But sounds like a pretty typical witness, sadly.
Shes going to kill herself with that schedule. Try not to sound like Satan, but encourage her to take better care of herself.
so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.
we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!
"did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.
I hope you recommended to him that he go around to everyone in the hall and bring up the same exact discussion. Elders last!
Eek I just realized you said he's already baptized...OK maybe not the best suggestion. Am excited to read the rest of your story!
english .
belleville, mi assembly hall of jehovah's witnesses .
jersey city, nj .
Half banana, the religion is definitely 'losing its grip' but unfortunately it is definitely not 'loosing its grip.'
An English teacher once taught me how to remember one 'o' or two. In 007 there are a lot of 'loose' women. (Double o 7)
yes that's me, i am victorious!
i had enough after about 4 years knowing ttatt.
sent my da letter and it has been anounced at the meeting.
i saw she went under the handle of lovejahforever.....she said she is very smart and had cleaning jobs and was going in the ministry this morning.. when she told me she looked forward to beating me (she won the first game) she sid she was smart because she's a jehovah's witness.
my response was we will see how smart she is.. what next?
any suggestions??
I bet she's counting her time while playing, and that's always her line. Heck, her username is witnessing by itself, right? :P
Yep tell her you were an elder but you left because of (the reasons). If you're in hiding be careful tho, esp if your name isn't an alias.
i was expecting people who "identified" as jws to follow watchtower beliefs more closely than these pollsters report.. .
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/26/a-closer-look-at-jehovahs-witnesses-living-in-the-u-s/.
The question was not just for Jehovah's witnesses but for people of all religions. Jehovah's witnesses who like to say their 'truth is so simple' actually have very complicated beliefs and it's not easy to get at what they believe through a general questionnaire.
Old hippie, I don't know if you're a practicing witness or not but you're definitely not neutral :).
