Apostrate, I get what you're saying now. Yes, the witnesses like to call everything pagan, and if the same standards apply to themselves, their tower is also a phallic symbol. I disliked your comment (sorry), because I didn't understand that you were trying to make that comment. I hate when people call practical things phallic symbols. A church's steeple is to distinguish it as being a church, and it is reaching towards the heavens. An early american school was painted red and had a steep roof to distinguish it as a school. A skyscraper holds a lot of rooms in a short supply of acreage. A watchtower is tall so that people could stand in it and see far distances. To some men's dismay, it doesn't have to be about a penis all the time ;).
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The origin of the name and masthead illustration of The Watchtower
by Gorbatchov inthanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
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The origin of the name and masthead illustration of The Watchtower
by Gorbatchov inthanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
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Hello
by Munster Abu innew here but looking forward to joining in some of the discussions with you all.. a small bit about me: i'm shane.
was raised as a jw in the uk by my mum (single parent family) from about 2 years of age.
got baptised at 15 for all the wrong reasons.
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FayeDunaway
Probably one of the few religions that people feel they have to move to ANOTHER COUNTRY to get out of it!
Welcome shane, love your name.
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A Green Handshake
by dgp ini just learned that sometimes people give "green handshakes".
is this the same as bribing your way up?.
thanks for any posts..
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I have done this myself, and I'm female. We had a very young CO, and I just wanted to help him. He gave me a look of shock. I don't know if cuz I'm female or if because it was new for him. I also did this with missionaries. My husband isn't the generous type so it had to be me!! And neither of us were the least bit ambitious. Really felt for the people, that's all. We weren't brown nosers either. I took special pleasure out of being contrary to CO's, not agreeing with everything they said, if I didn't agree. -
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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But many many people on this forum don't do that, and are respectful. Steve2 is respectful unless something REALLY gets to him, and then he's still respectABLE. Vinman try to focus on good stuff. And maybe take a break from here for a while if you need to. -
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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He's making a statement. I believe vinman likes Ray Franz but is stating that he was a Christian, so why don't people here call him an idiot. -
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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What Convinced you to Leave?
by LaurenM ini've been posting here a lot, but these last few weeks have been very difficult for me.
anyways, lately, i've been thinking about confessing everything i've done to the elders and going back, but deep down, i don't really think it's the truth...so my question is, what convinced you it wasn't the truth and that leaving wasn't a horrible decision that everyone in the truth makes it out to be?
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FayeDunaway
I'm thinking you feel really alienated these days, and kind of in a state of limbo. I don't know if you still live with your parents and how much control of your own life you have, but you need a friend or counsellor to talk to who is not a witness. We apparently aren't doing it for you, you need a one on one in real life. I don't know what the appeal of the elders is for you, but it sounds like you are feeling lonely and desperate and lost. Can you walk into another church and talk with the pastor there? Anything, but you need to talk to someone.