Hi Thirteenth Tribe,
Great post, by the way don't sugar coat it, tell it how it is!
over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
Hi Thirteenth Tribe,
Great post, by the way don't sugar coat it, tell it how it is!
the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
The September 2015 broadcast had David Splane explain Matthew 24:34 “Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”. His explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.
No scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.
To illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song My Generation.
In 1965 Pete Townshend of The Who wrote the song My Generation, he told Rolling Stone magazine in 1985 that "'My Generation' was very much about trying to find a place in society."
So with this in mind insert overlapping before generation and see if it makes any sense!
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
If you insert overlapping before generation the song no longer works, it does not tell the story as it was written, it makes no sense!
I postulate that overlapping generation has been formulated to overcome the failed 1914 prediction, the increasing anointed numbers and to perpetuate the Cult of FDS for the foreseeable future.
For just as inserting overlapping before generation in the song makes no sense, inserting overlapping before generation in Matthew 24:34 makes even less sense, as these are the words of Jesus himself, if he meant overlapping generation then he would have said so. But the reality is, he did not say this, so logically he did not mean this!
tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).
i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.
i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.
Hi Thirteenth tribe,
Liked your post, I bet the help from the elders was not there for you, as it has never been for any of us, perhaps instead of being judgemental they should be this:
Do they do this? They do the complete opposite! Why? Because they believe they are not the slaves, but rather the masters of us, or so they think. They say they love the sheep, but it is always the sheep's fault!
Perhaps this is who they really are:
this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
That elder with his supercilious grin on his face, is as many others have stated, downright creepy. If he was genuinely concerned for this woman his facial reactions would have indicated this. Her story should have ripped his heart out, instead he was enjoying his Andy Warhol, 15 minutes of fame.
Sickening, especially the part at the end!
this took quite a while this evening.
so worth it though.
hope you enjoy!
Hi cappytan,
Man that was awesome, really great job.
Any more in the pipeline?
tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).
i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.
i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.
Hi Thirteenth tribe,
You have taken a decisive step, one that can leave them under no misunderstanding. But will they take any notice of you and the many others who have left or are in the process of leaving?
No they have invested so much in this that they cannot see what is in front of them:
Welcome to the real world Thirteenth tribe
i may be on a diatribe now but something has came back to me tonight.. during my studies i was always told that "silence is compliance".
this would come up whilst i was 'putting on the new personality'.
i would be reminded of possible social situations or associations where if my integrity was at all compromised by someone else's standards -my silence to their un-christian actions would be deemed as compliance.
Hi Thirteenth tribe,
Fully agree with your post, it is funny how if you remain silent you are guilty of compliance, when they remain silent it is because others are not deserving of the truth.
What they fail to understand, is what is in the song "Silence is Golden" by The Tremeloes:
Silence is goldenThey can remain silent, but others can see exactly what they are.
But my eyes still see
i am on a pension, so i could not afford to pay for a psychologist, but my good doctor referred me to a free clinic for people on a low income, for my anxiety and depression, so i have finally got my first appointment with a psychologist since i started my fade, so where do i start trying to explain the mental trauma i feel as a fading jw?
i would appreciate your advice.
simple .
Hi Simple Minds,
Like you I recently joined this forum after 25 years in the truth, but unlike you I haven't suffered mentally from this cult as you have. Therefore, I cannot fully understand your pain, but I do sympathize with you. All I can say is what everyone else has already suggested, just be yourself and be honest.
Any psychologist who knows what they are doing will be able to help you and ease your pain. If it helps a friend of mine had some counselling a while back it would seem that most psychologist's are fully aware of this cult and it's harmful practices.
Take care my friend and be well.
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here is a question, if "not one of them is missing" how does the org explain super nova's, the destruction of a star at the end of it's life cycle?
because by definition it is missing, i have never heard of any explanation from the org to explain this contradiction..
Here is a question, if "not one of them is missing" how does the Org explain Super Nova's, the destruction of a star at the end of it's life cycle? Because by definition it is missing, I have never heard of any explanation from the Org to explain this contradiction.
i started this topic "what could the fds theme tune be?
", there has been some great ideas with this so how about one for the r&f in, fading or out.. to get the ball rolling how about these:.
slade, mama weer all crazy now.
I started this topic "What could the FDS theme tune be?", there has been some great ideas with this so how about one for the R&F In, Fading or Out.
To get the ball rolling how about these:
Slade, Mama Weer All Crazy Now
Queen, I Want To Break Free
Rihanna, Fading
Anyone else?